From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 8 05:13:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D791F16A4D0; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:13:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (rrcs-midsouth-24-172-16-118.biz.rr.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3106143D46; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 05:13:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) i585CdRw096687; Tue, 8 Jun 2004 01:12:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: Daniel Eischen In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-4faQEVN185PHyZKJ00vz" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1086671609.18374.18.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 01:13:29 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Sean McNeil cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-threads@freebsd.org Subject: Re: weak implementation of threads has problems - kse fix attached X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 05:13:38 -0000 --=-4faQEVN185PHyZKJ00vz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 00:32, Daniel Eischen wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2004, Sean McNeil wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > Up front, I'd like to make a few apologies: > >=20 > > 1) I am sorry for the length of this email. > > 2) Although some very valid opinions have been expressed, I respectfull= y > > have to disagree. This email will hopefully strengthen my position. >=20 > Please stop spamming multiple lists. >=20 > No, I don't want to litter all our thread libraries with strong reference= s. > As I've said before, build your shared libraries correctly so they don't > bring in the threads library. In order to do this, I'm a strong proponent of making -pthread the default PTHREAD_LIBS from 4.X and 5.X. This will do the right thing in all cases, and reduces diffs among branches. What is keeping this from happening from a threading standpoint? Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-4faQEVN185PHyZKJ00vz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAxUr5b2iPiv4Uz4cRAm8EAKCNndWyv3S5K6+bTsCc+F6MkQIyJgCgksgJ 4S+uSdmI4eKIGyXUUEbBDcs= =1kPV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-4faQEVN185PHyZKJ00vz--