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Date:      Tue, 20 Aug 2024 08:54:06 -0400
From:      Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>
To:        Michael Dexter <editor@callfortesting.org>
Cc:        freebsd-enterprisewg@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: For your radar: Apple Silicon support
Message-ID:  <CAP=s-_gnjWN7xgiY5Kwn-Xiv8p4yDFCkBxJy72tCTU2F3YVr4A@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for flagging this, Michael. Very interesting!

Greg

On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 7:28=E2=80=AFPM Michael Dexter <editor@callfortestin=
g.org>
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> In preparing for the FreeBSD on ARM64 talk I gave at FOSSY.us, I
> refreshed my knowledge of the available systems that fill the "bathtub"
> between the countless phones we all own and the many ARM-based servers
> from Ampere, Cavium, and the like.
>
> "ARM64 Developer Workstations" remain a challenge of cost, availability,
> or both, with one exception: Apple Silicon systems. They are plentiful
> and very, very fast, even their entry-level models.
>
> The Asahi Linux project has done much of the heavy lifting for Apple
> Silicon support and the first step of using OpenBSD on Apple Silicon is
> to install the Asahi boot loader.
>
> Kyle Evans is one of the best resources available for the state of
> FreeBSD on this platform but has made it clear that he alone cannot move
> this work forward at a meaningful pace.
>
> With bhyve now working on ARM64, reportedly the M2 and M3 CPUs support
> nested virtualization and will be exposed to the user on the M3 in the
> next version of macOS.
>
> Hopefully I am not alone in finding this very exciting and I simply ask
> that you put it on your collective radar for consideration for future
> developer attention!
>
> All the best,
>
> Michael Dexter
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for flagging this, Michael. Very interesting!<br><d=
iv><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 7:28=E2=80=AFPM Michae=
l Dexter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:editor@callfortesting.org">editor@callfortes=
ting.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex">Hello All,<br>
<br>
In preparing for the FreeBSD on ARM64 talk I gave at FOSSY.us, I <br>
refreshed my knowledge of the available systems that fill the &quot;bathtub=
&quot; <br>
between the countless phones we all own and the many ARM-based servers <br>
from Ampere, Cavium, and the like.<br>
<br>
&quot;ARM64 Developer Workstations&quot; remain a challenge of cost, availa=
bility, <br>
or both, with one exception: Apple Silicon systems. They are plentiful <br>
and very, very fast, even their entry-level models.<br>
<br>
The Asahi Linux project has done much of the heavy lifting for Apple <br>
Silicon support and the first step of using OpenBSD on Apple Silicon is <br=
>
to install the Asahi boot loader.<br>
<br>
Kyle Evans is one of the best resources available for the state of <br>
FreeBSD on this platform but has made it clear that he alone cannot move <b=
r>
this work forward at a meaningful pace.<br>
<br>
With bhyve now working on ARM64, reportedly the M2 and M3 CPUs support <br>
nested virtualization and will be exposed to the user on the M3 in the <br>
next version of macOS.<br>
<br>
Hopefully I am not alone in finding this very exciting and I simply ask <br=
>
that you put it on your collective radar for consideration for future <br>
developer attention!<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
<br>
Michael Dexter<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Greg Wallace</font><div><f=
ont face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Director of Partnerships &amp; Research</fo=
nt></div><div><div><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif"><img width=3D"96" heig=
ht=3D"51" src=3D"https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wjP1JywV5=
1T1uncasRi5dh2tUFJeZix_vPxSVpOhkm2zu1JmXD4jfm2U5IKBxTuPyUCfKI10o"></font></=
div></div><div><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">M +1 919-247-3165<br></fon=
t></div><div><a href=3D"https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min" targe=
t=3D"_blank"><font face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">Schedule a meeting</font></a=
></div><div><a href=3D"https://freebsd-foundation.myshopify.com/" target=3D=
"_blank">Get your FreeBSD Gear</a></div></div></div>

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