From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 17 12:12:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2384737BB81; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA81564; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:12:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA63248; Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:12:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007171912.NAA63248@harmony.village.org> To: nsayer@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysctl interface for apm? Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jul 2000 11:15:18 PDT." <39734D36.5FC7DDA@sftw.com> References: <39734D36.5FC7DDA@sftw.com> <3971F574.B492B904@softweyr.com> <1884.963737703@critter.freebsd.dk> <200007171753.LAA62543@harmony.village.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:12:23 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <39734D36.5FC7DDA@sftw.com> Nick Sayer writes: : The "why bother" is easy -- one should not have to belong to group : operator to determine the current battery state. Too many things : already have to be sgid (at least) without making this another reason. You should already be a member of group operator so that you can suspend your machine :-). However, wouldn't it be much simpler and easier to make apm world readable instead? Hmmm, and hack apm.c to open readonly. Hmmm, there are other problems with that since you can do the nasty things... But those should be fixed. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message