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Mon, 17 Aug 2020 19:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Recognizing Matrix as an official channel To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Cc: Dave Hayes , Eugene Grosbein , Farhan Khan References: <0220573d-7844-4c0f-9cff-56c2a6f91500@www.fastmail.com> <20200817145638.64be51a1@bigus.dream-tech.com> From: Charlie Li Autocrypt: addr=ml+freebsd@vishwin.info; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFt7iHUBEADCorTixbMGuHd9WYSKCELlv/TFcRtvpHUw/n9LtXzKixUUwl7iuMFMYTz3 QXePX0Twq4jCQYySfcxWbPkLsSYlPOkaGQ+XytfmIHoqG5ba4i1fp+F41is0oCtLt1+oL84j NKUd13em/JWd+PJeQbSTVnHbT2yaAi7vqWw5WKVaMExjfPGU5TArV46wSRU6Zuy1ZX66q0q5 dPzeBdeKYWJE8aGtyi3pYUpKUOX4gxiNetf6leDFZ4OsexWaRdU0n8fId5d1qwjAE3lOwV5z 0Ilt8t4iXtX3JL3DAQyLZIeXHIg9O3rrpPMXQWSp2/5g39PohNk7farbhcpIKxuDN+L5N6U9 OxNHBSCv9FGDO4R/mw3YwJCovDzsF7RSyXQDIY36yjdh2uTLZ0uD5Ci/DPmJUySFLRvpqWnQ M7V5cYhdqDfcElGpRbi8JZQVYRJjvI5Jj0byG98KeaD0YFxKqmmm+Oh+xWXE7xt/DsBoZeZJ BFP84LvFbwQqprvI+sg+1z2+JIgNbYwl8VaYzfyGnqTEXTOsQYEKTdKA9MODSAsN31MlQICe CIHZV+OwOqH1KQ/mZp59AnpXAmj4T94bnahE9yJtVW/qglX/nTeFNUdu5MyEgkeB0x7mx+t0 3hE20yp/NbyvG1T/o53NHwHiURC/8Fxd1NWPZ6n4X8npQn6iyQARAQABtC5DaGFybGllIExp IChGcmVlQlNEKSA8bWwrZnJlZWJzZEB2aXNod2luLmluZm8+iQJOBBMBCAA4FiEE/3/Cqr5a +41PbEb+jnB43vIDq2wFAlt7iwoCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQjnB4 3vIDq2zlBQ/7Boe3K9i4pxvIlBWlFDmDuclLiju/LTsc81mO607TIwUMx5p3BfnhqTwqpcuT Gilj2JKSlIw0NioJ3HnPiPyIpMmOmdeLBwvBn8iBmjs14DdDMgKusE8gKc0KRFbTM397rB7K oXj2/R8VF3Uuo8i3vlWyah6p+Osz1dAad/7COqPeM9OBMKaYAOrdKvxMC96l5k+Wc1JKOLeA BP7BtgmQB7HydHUm+dzqUB1rgMP2djIXd5Ngc749kzNQIFvC9ZXbaABw5M4JqKRbVFm08Wgw IUyhkNEtMpkBxMPwqXsk3t1KVptYQSAfW/+8mWDP2sgUOyz9O2IBfb1acCPk04/jf8SsXRaT HzJr64NseWlZUHAMYl9EC09gdE6UDCIHR68+IzutMtgT17Djuu1HRYly+RWAGkyTOeR7Sv/V 2B89Nsq5OfHYs3F2vD57/aRj5TmZJDQWxH/rDYbj8Pk6UjXcaY6QWUtNFidvCMFlBpXuncXU ZWgTsJEyZLHP5SJ7S9sRSHU5+CVUkjsbEFNuHkkGHAkSnpP+HosnH8/q9Rykn9FTamLbiQRQ UxJ6+IlqvOUtRRrMGMBF7ZIFGHcl8tcKynsPTeaHjpqPhCrZx8PmCKKoJHwW4Ua7+cdZkBJq R20qvXuLIrInjkIpA1CbacMckS5a7el6pi/nU0NG1S1K4Zu5Ag0EW3uIdQEQANdl7YHG8JOy HbEYv+7ExSrO96qBRavg1FsDG0riDmlsOSfZ2fqL6/YJF5WsfsX99+YSdIiLQfC4QOw/cA+M I65pgY4cCu42L7YIW/AR+jB1hFg+Q/cbeOwjuKPFYtZvxeDpSsaA6iIR+p+t4DXkjWl86g6W aFLC+til/rCilFHY/1/6M918F1gm/6xCIADDFu0BXLkASc5B4LuvaFEiJIuI9ZoQDIgWxnsX 0tXXE36SwK/XrowzRzsOa+2iOHAPKu7rPGHwy28vO4T5Uq7UynMZG2sK3RTbOijaxL4IJF4W MRqpuGdBSJ4sWmr5aIpgX9au5L1TNAAILJpHXnkv+k825+9VgbhFtFYBHEkgUtXb+w34JnkH okpr9A78dpWb+T+jOEP6ZUgM+4VVy+hCCpbcCVI2PEXu8w2z3+4yZWxIFmy8UYZRoeTMKzV2 zLeisoA0XA8jj548YNPiAl20Mjyoqu42WNv0P8fD9PMTcfLFCj2PlxOhuUFaIUH3ty0/bNeS jPtVK+L9x4W37R7U1tYk+tB5MlPakQiSQtdToB+8K34rnBt/3kCoAYL7Hygw9+qyZrEKZDtP 5JKekfgsy28t1z66xWCUwq9PHuUFiij3cjbwIbskI9uy2+xITcXt4ZqVfpZcdGmjfbdTPkGf PH2pjDoCJaezYdbha/3OVhmVABEBAAGJAjYEGAEIACAWIQT/f8Kqvlr7jU9sRv6OcHje8gOr bAUCW3uIdQIbDAAKCRCOcHje8gOrbExnD/9qwSL4HiorJmUEJ+5CTh8IJql4PzeQK8Dx93gi Zs5jWVlCJTmcpQNirWIZM2eRt67C/wTJjLmEVGzySVLpGiUqhXqdROgFmDwvEnmpIbtWWyvG sgSOCmZj/tz0GEtLSsjJcV/kLffkv7XEKkt9ZjIJnFYVYSovDK1o2PoO6Rfi5AWHHB7jYhjS HJvJjDx0yClO9gEYhtw7R60YOLH+cKoDou9tu+4wR3QwRsNGO6wrzLGhptxuBrDMI+HuOx+j wBTliuzuvZrry6OdKDDdq5D4vvQCj4vFnK4p7LZXhBshCMoLkWoA0I2T+YF/V5Ob5EuvsTIC re/pO/g941ipVkehvVNAsiplSaHjasB1HS6BQ95csI8E/b6PnKm+IECp2bANbLP1jrxKeBGj UkeyRxTmOV/ADUIIj8S4a2yOxTxlysN2O5wqXCJcxaYelC/Y4TUcL6ENxn2dLBdCYKQEna0u DdxZp7fS+pXN6qyK8Qz6Q42MHAxFAZdLKf6a44d4HQt6rPcWdETVlnVKnJr0b9kg5K1Q8N4k PVoTGVrkGAZhmjFYsqWulq445VU46mX7WcqsrZx8LqNTwP6i3Bf71FJ9EBxTyA8fP8k0qosP 8U8D7jhcc5x4yVW8RBBtB+a5q3odWdFnjMLEm4wtxBH/mSN/UKRcFSBvKQ8FxTgpX4Yxcw== Organization: FreeBSD mailing lists Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 19:14:35 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 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charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave Hayes wrote: > On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 03:20:45 +0700 > Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> What is Matrix's level of support for FreeBSD? >> Is there native FreeBSD server? >=20 > Yes. See net-im/py-matrix-synapse, which is well supported. =20 >=20 Synapse is the official and reference implementation of a Matrix homeserver, but not the only one. >> Is there native FreeBSD client? >=20 > Matrix is really a protocol, not an application. Thus this question is = hard > to answer. You can see >=20 > https://matrix.org/ >=20 > for details, but the best current client for this protocol is Element. > Element runs in the popular browsers, has an Android and iOS client, > and can likely be made into a stand alone application assuming=20 > devel/electron* works on FreeBSD. However, all you need is www/chromium= or > www/firefox to actually run a client. So technically, FreeBSD is also w= ell > supported but a native client is through electron.=20 >=20 net-im/fractal is a GTK-based client written in Rust, hosted by the GNOME project. Works well. There are a few Qt-based clients as well but can't remember what they're called at the moment. > It's worth noting that Matrix is federated. Thus it is quite possible f= or > FreeBSD to run it's own matrix server if it decided to.=20 >=20 This is what Mozilla does, which replaced their IRC network (moznet) entirely earlier this year. --=20 Charlie Li =E2=80=A6nope, still don't have an exit line. 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