From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 30 19:38:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E82EFEB5 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CF0A99C for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbdm7 with SMTP id dm7so80417279wgb.1 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:38:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lG5JPEZ6WCVkQDGpEW4XxNAju0K22UWj5t7vXJPUKwY=; b=NJ6Er388zj+BA/3MpX9qkxNGtz4sqLH8bQbbu9n87W8tYwEd2XAvgT2868Qto242X2 GYT0TH7DLojiBjyljPWwLx/yn/IcT4ksv7rKOSStCyHOMokGauitYgCZ10dijdz7H1Mp x4lg48zPR9P+CGdDykp1VVXW3HD4CYu6Tm/Qbjb568d7V0Ohu9qmYctwogrm55VdbEHq WrS8qcj3tYWut5aqfYEm8C7zzFnj4Gi4bF224VX2E4yN+hfPDhOhX5QEgZOQIJx5ZPY9 pQ19hfxgu0S/7i642y39wOJOcwBG5/NE49tEnZNXeOHhZ4ZMTn8km4v2i2ZakTluuISa rZXg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkcVOed1Ti+vtZVXWieEr95DkaPshQMheXgFbIZiurv60jkjXD5/8g4fEALpb6b2jGyU2On X-Received: by 10.194.158.234 with SMTP id wx10mr67946071wjb.23.1427744328282; Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.1.68] (82-69-141-170.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk. [82.69.141.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q6sm17063700wix.3.2015.03.30.12.38.46 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5519A650.1020507@multiplay.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 20:38:56 +0100 From: Steven Hartland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: T40 bootloop on CAM status: Command timeout on both 10.1 and -CURRENT References: <551748A4.1090303@gmail.com> <20150329092713.GA69272@lyxys.ka.sub.org> <551990F6.6070202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <551990F6.6070202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:38:53 -0000 Is there anything connected to the second channel, if so what. Was this working in a previous version and if so which one and what was the verbose boot log from it? On 30/03/2015 19:07, bsdml wrote: > Hello Kevin, > > thanks for your clarification. Unfortunately I wasn't aware that the > T40 and *4's line used a SATA-PATA convertor and especially that was > going to clash with the new ATA stack in FreeBSD. Either OpenBSD and > NetBSD do work out of the box without any hassle, however I'd still > prefer to use FreeBSD on it as I have been using FreeBSD for about 8 > years now and I am very comfortable with it. > > The question at this point is, is there any hope to see this issue > resolved in the future? Or will I have to give up to the second ATA > channel in order to use FreeBSD? > > Regards, > Pietro Sammarco > > On 30/03/2015 06:17, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 2:27 AM, Wolfgang Zenker >> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> * bsdml > >> [150329 01:34]: >> > since I tried to install FreeBSD 10.1 on my recently purchased >> T40 I got >> > stuck at this annoying bootloop that says >> > "ATAPY_IDENTIFY. ACB: a1 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 etc etc.. CAM >> status: >> > Command timeout". I have also tried latest 11-CURRENT snapshot >> and it >> > did not make any difference at all, it is affected from the same >> exact >> > bootloop. >> > [..] >> > It seems like there might be an issue with the CAM ATA stack >> that is >> > clashing with the PATA controller on my T40. >> >> I had the same problem on an ancient T42p. In my case, disabling the >> second ata channel allowed me to boot. >> >> I added the following line to /boot/device.hints: >> hint.ata.1.disabled="1" >> >> >> This is an annoying side-effect of the brain-dead SATA-PATA converter >> in that generation of ThinkPads. The Intel ICH6 chipset is SATA, but, >> for reasons known ot IBM/Lenovo, the systems used PATA drives! So >> they has a SATA-PATA converter built in that screwed up a LOT of >> things, mostly compromising performance and generating assorted log >> entries. Looks like that also is broken in modern ATA support if a >> drive is not present. >> >> This was always my biggest complaint with this laptop (T42) which I >> used for several years until I retired and returned to so it could be >> excessed legally as it was government property (and, I didn't really >> want it, even if I could have kept it). Not an awful system, but this >> one issue was really annoying to me. >> -- >> Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired >> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"