From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 24 02:24:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56111065676 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@eitanadler.com) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710788FC15 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbgb22 with SMTP id gb22so2029844vcb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:24:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eitanadler.com; s=0xdeadbeef; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TeuksIM5bxvGVq4k95fCjO9Po5hxmKdu0a0VOAqQ5Qk=; b=YZfeC1LD927s/j6z4iII/niOeSbxXZPnvqNRdOhCxLC6Ca/dPedt0W3k3noJnd+j/8 Piu2AJa6IGH4KhHgm5a9tG1mqjy+pUaASBqDkpAkAEA3pU5c8uVq7FZp13Aj3OepcVhC 5i18o1MDqH9xc42DXomoBgBYwmkhPlos6DF/0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=TeuksIM5bxvGVq4k95fCjO9Po5hxmKdu0a0VOAqQ5Qk=; b=RhR4H95BdDgc1LTniE7JHpIxwmF+80yNGH1XD4zHs3DT0FQxZTcn2Kgj0WIlkomSqe Bk1aLZ04HMHdJo/0GzsoJ90Ojwnca3mf7w9fyuQ7V53b82/fNFrQw9Fifs0d+JFrLdd9 goCeShZC/MAuOo8ziVc+fN6qWoAodneCnZmLJ/IwJHDI3owDM7dIwx2hHCVtFzGLaA8O SUWYMB6fw6SqBM7wMaNI3sWPmeWUmU52FVgpOhfENF1CVQMLJqu8A1/UNrWDayHUGPN5 aa/RMkt7pmxY4fCprW7RGCTsjzlqtUQLmHZdxJATETetEJ3F4guwndjyzcBahuuycn+j Ty+g== Received: by 10.58.133.48 with SMTP id oz16mr3623636veb.1.1345775055345; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:24:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.190.227 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:23:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5AC662AA-4874-4BC2-9862-65518B79B840@freebsd.org> References: <97612B57-1255-4BB3-A6D3-FC74324C6D67@FreeBSD.org> <785B5BAD-E015-4624-B3A1-D05E1BD97E51@freebsd.org> <5AC662AA-4874-4BC2-9862-65518B79B840@freebsd.org> From: Eitan Adler Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:23:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: Steve Wills Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn2pxdgTlE6WaOrbivEvTgREVleNQPr6I+KmNpwc6s0wpiQkstmvGdDsjTsn23BKD6nT8jg Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng suggestion: renaming /usr/sbin/pkg to /usr/sbin/pkg-bootstrap X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 02:24:16 -0000 On 23 August 2012 22:15, Steve Wills wrote: > On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > >> On 23 August 2012 22:05, Steve Wills wrote: >> >>> Why can't one of those steps be to run "pkg-bootstrap"? >> >> Because the how-to may not be for a new system ;) > > The possibility of bad docs somewhere outside of our control, when we can= (and I am actively working on) document(ing) pkgng for the handbook seems = kinda thin. It's not even "Something's wrong on the Internet!" (http://xkcd= .com/386/), it's "Something might some day be wrong on the Internet!" It isn't a problem of bad docs. Its a problem of the user following some not-for-new-systems documentation and getting very confused when they see "command not found.". It is practically the definition of POLA. --=20 Eitan Adler