From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 18:31:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFF437B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f511Uq778967; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106010130.f511Uq778967@earth.backplane.com> To: Greg Lehey Cc: Christoph Sold , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de> <20010531174250.D41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I'm not sure which system you're talking about here. We call it :IPFILTER in FreeBSD, and it's in the kernel source tree. If the worst :comes to the worst, we can move it to the ports, where you would be :correct, but I'm personally confident that we'll come to a :clarification which will leave it where it is. : :Greg I agree. I don't see a problem. It isn't the default, so the worst we should do is properly comment the kernel option in LINT so people who use it know where they stand. We (the FreeBSD crowd) pretty much give the original developers total control over the management of their work in our tree anyway so as long as Daren is still actively dealing with it, which Daren obviously is, there is no conflict with *US*. If someone outside of our control wants to mess with Daren's code I doubt it would be a big deal them getting Daren's permission. Like many authors, he just wants to make sure his code isn't abused. I had a similar clause in Diablo though I never expected anyone to take it seriously :-) I dunno if it is still there... when I gave Diablo over to openusenet.org I gave them permission to adjust the copyright appropriately. When Daren gets tired of doing ipf and moves onto his next best thing we can renegotiate the copyright to open it up entirely so others can take over management, or we can remove the code then. We certainly do not need to remove anything now. I consider it a learning experience for Daren and frankly can't imagine any outcome N years from now other then it opening up. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message