From owner-freebsd-net Tue Nov 17 10:25:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19712 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:25:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19697 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:25:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.169]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1EB4; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:24:35 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199811171820.NAA26469@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:29:10 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: Frametypes (was: Re: Netware client for FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Nov-98 Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Ehm, Ethernet is 802.2/3 (aka eth_snap, eth_llc and eth_mac), also Eth_II >> and >> the original ethernet afaik... Ethernet is not ONE standard... > > Yes it is. ISO 8802-3 is a different standard. ISO 8802-2 is a layer > which sits on top of ISO 8802-3. Novell found a way to break both. Fast answer btw ;) Yeah, but with regard to the prospects of heterogeneous networks we cannot stick our head in the sand and plainly ignore other frametypes, at least in my opinion... Care to elaborate on Novell's breaking of the IEEE specs? AFAIK, they just used the standard (IEEE's). Surely others disagree... But the eliteness of such stances was the thing that got other projects/stuff into problems in the first place. I think there must be a way to work it all out with the least fuss and yet with great extensibility, hence I value yer advice as much as the others... geez, I love the UNIX community ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl | Cum angelis et pueris, Junior Network/Security Specialist | fideles inveniamur *BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message