From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Mar 23 09:31:25 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA15709 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:31:25 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA15670 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:29:41 -0800 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA08316; Tue, 21 Mar 1995 23:03:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 23:03:18 +0100 From: Julian Howard Stacey Message-Id: <199503212203.XAA08316@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: dcasba@rain.org, julian@tfs.com Subject: Re: Reference Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is it just me or does anyone else find this sort of reply offensive? It took me a while to realise that person knew _SO_ little that he did not even know to try for a `man' command :-( I suggest we adopt (voluntary) minimum enrollment criteria, to be included in the greeting message sent by Majordomo, to be received by each new person when they enroll, here's a draft: ] This mail list is for users & developers off FreeBSD, & assumes you already ] have working familiarity with at least one of: ] FreeBSD, NetBSD, BSDI, Unix, Linux, HP-UX, SCO-UX etc. ] Please do NOT burden our busy mail lists with `Beginners Unix' questions. ] Just reading all the mail traffic on the FreeBSD lists is a significant ] burden to FreeBSD developers that they can't afford reading bandwidth for ] dumb questions, (even if one or two of our readers can afford the time to ] reply to dumb novice questions). ! ] Please go to a private tutor/friend/bookshop/library/night-classes or ] college course provider, & say to them ] "I 'm a beginner with Unix type operating systems, ] which book do you recomend I study ?" ] The purpose of this list is NOT to teach beginners Unix, please now ] - run the mail command again, with `unsubscribe' this time ] instead of `subscribe', ] - OR, maintain a `lurker' profile, & read but don't post dumb questions.] Please note we do not insult your intelligence, but cannot afford the ] wasted bandwidth that supporting unskilled novices would require. I suggest a core team member (Jordan maybe ?) put something like the above in the Majordomo "you have been enrolled" message. Julian S