From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 1 20:22:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0807837B400 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TMA-1.brad-x.com (static-b2-191.highspeed.eol.ca [64.56.236.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569F643E6E for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad@brad-x.com) Received: from brad-x.com (Discovery.brad-x.com [201.64.15.21]) by TMA-1.brad-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C93722104E; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3D49FB0B.1050507@brad-x.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 23:22:51 -0400 From: Brad Laue User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020529 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Marcus Clarke Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: glib12 port build failure in -stable (update) References: <20020801231558.P87489-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: >>I hate to go on a rant, but -STABLE broke three times yesterday, too - >>this is -STABLE, why is this happening all of a sudden? I'm supposed to >>be able to put implicit faith in it! >> >> > >Well, the security branch (RELENG_4_6 for example) is more "stable" and >changes much less frequently. For any production server, I would >recommend using those branches rather than -stable. > > > >>I don't think there should be much room for error in the -STABLE branch; >>too much is riding on it. Four hours of troubleshooting an apache server >>which was down for the count. What is it they say about time being money? >> >> >> > >Again, don't go with -stable then. The security branch is moderated by >the security officer, and thus all changes going into it need to be >justified. > >Joe > > > >>Anyway, enough of me flaming, I'm just a little surprised, is all. >> >>I meant to send the first reply to the list, sorry. >> >>-- >>// -- http://www.BRAD-X.com/ -- // >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc > > Didn't this used to be the case for -STABLE itself? I've seen major design shifts happen in -STABLE, but never programmer error, as has been the case lately. Is there a new way of thinking with respect to -STABLE? Brad -- // -- http://www.BRAD-X.com/ -- // To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message