From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 17 14:44:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEA1656DA6 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-io1-xd31.google.com (mail-io1-xd31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GRrTW2R0fz4vWJ for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lobo@bsd.com.br) Received: by mail-io1-xd31.google.com with SMTP id k16so14186051ios.10 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 07:43:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsd.com.br; s=capeta; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=wjH0iQTP1ibJLpu7UyElmctKaknzj54+GowqfEWtCzU=; b=gHmXeASUAViTghmOzDcCEO9w0VWUr4UVqK2Z+u3sHsQbmqOoQPD+uYDT6QKTX7Fl3R 25c2E/HKyCd8/aoDyOSvxM3R9uyN+4VJ2HsSwwW/769EMXi1ybAXj/I33kBhTTSppf04 oaC74oVP24V6DL9bFQSFkLDkW01b2WezB4uHY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=wjH0iQTP1ibJLpu7UyElmctKaknzj54+GowqfEWtCzU=; b=ckP0Q/1wjX2YKUSMQ3iZ00DMq5H+kzxm+LklUmVpqOoY6ymezYw5w/M9q2xLkQ6U3d XM35pl//THX6z35coWVGAM7WCvpWNcCNHNoqYbuGqAAT1Fa5MKGLoOT4D0vAFpDSJu2B G0DXYWyslNkYZcx2mJ9tWkqDpXqaTQWETjsaB4iYB4mJmb+16XGRHgp3mOpkvp+068qO OTF0XtrjEuJN0HhaK58Tf9oP6Vwgx3FDqrD6oZJm7jVv2MtNv2D1yIHkOQWe+xlGX/S7 sMbg32ZdRHlfAzZFNUo76u5oVQI1aoVmj7acC+3lEIu2y+nM96Acv613f5Ak/ufnfoCb JHaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531dmp4gL/xCpaVuvLTvU6OcaotwRNX9SH0Y//PEVemUko8sP2eM yu7DXI7qvxxJA9yal5wdm5s8JRsobyHVWM8jl1ZuJRXn6kxk0qW4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzlyiaqbjUFHD38fYn/WIge74Bakm3pFkYTLtNzaB974re3fQFpuCcZBPJ5hMZsDUOcA5EDZcbLA2dm/oMuSMA= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9b14:: with SMTP id y20mr11374223ion.8.1626533037561; Sat, 17 Jul 2021 07:43:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5b18f5de-7aae-a226-88cd-a210507d5c5@gmail.com> <72194e9f-261c-c3da-996-f8e1bcad2164@gmail.com> <20210715063116.85e42de5c276f40c8920ee2c@sohara.org> <20210715105229.50fee7b3@archlinux> <23e852c3-b9f4-3e7a-777c-50ff3c222f16@gmail.com> <20210715112546.61525c25b44bb93c10b87f21@sohara.org> <5d8e1ddf-92d1-48a6-0b76-04e2a81077f7@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20210715163245.658c4b29@gumby.homeunix.com> <65457cf2-37d2-5050-fa59-8926ea240baa@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20210715182442.722507f6@archlinux> <20210715211628.13cf80fb@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210715223007.3f8ed5db@archlinux> <20210715225442.3ccef0ae@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20210715225442.3ccef0ae@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Mario Lobo Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 11:43:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What the hell starts pulseaudio?! To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GRrTW2R0fz4vWJ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsd.com.br header.s=capeta header.b=gHmXeASU; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lobo@bsd.com.br designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lobo@bsd.com.br X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsd.com.br:s=capeta]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsd.com.br]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.98)[0.984]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsd.com.br:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31:from]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::d31:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2021 14:44:00 -0000 On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 6:55 PM RW via freebsd-questions < freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 22:45:47 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2021-07-15 at 22:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 21:16:28 +0100, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 22:13:47 -0400, edwardp@gmx.com stated: > > > > > > https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-to-force-oauth-in-g-suite-to-increase-security/ > > > > > > If this information is correct, it applies to G Suite accounts. > > > > > > It doesn't specifically mention individual Gmail accounts. > > > > > Lets be honest here. It is no longer a question of "if" but rather > > "when" will Google & Microsoft and then all of the other carriers > > follow suit and limit access to their products only by apps employing > > OAuth2 access. > > I'm not sure about gmail. When you enable 2FA it disables the use of > the main password from mail clients, but you can still get an > autogenerated random "app password" to use instead. > > App passwords can't be used for anything else but accessing mail > servers and they can be made arbitrarily long. oauth2 looks to be only > marginally more secure since its secret can be read by a cracker > or malware just as easily as an app password can. Oauth2 protects > against the case where an attacker has intercepted the connection and > got around TLS, which seems the lesser case to me. > > I don't see any good reason for gmail to ban app passwords. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I just compiled and installed claws-mail 4.0.0 and it still gmail gives me trouble: [2021-07-17 11:38:50] IMAP> Logging mario.lobo.neto@gmail.com to imap.gmail.com using XOAUTH2 [2021-07-17 11:38:51] IMAP< Invalid credentials (Failure) ** IMAP error on imap.gmail.com: LOGIN error [2021-07-17 11:38:51] IMAP< Error logging in to imap.gmail.com *** Couldn't login to IMAP server imap.gmail.com. My credentials ARE correct. -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!]