From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 10:58:00 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A846106564A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dick@nagual.nl) Received: from mail.nagual.nl (524948AF.cm-4-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [82.73.72.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D58C8FC0C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.11.34] (192.168.11.34) by westmark.nagual.nl (Axigen) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA id 0C6175; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:37:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4C9B2F2C.8050202@nagual.nl> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:42:52 +0200 From: Dick Hoogendijk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4C9A5339.80200@nagual.nl> <4C9A5A70.2020201@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4C9A5A70.2020201@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AxigenSpam-Level: 4 X-AxigenVirus-Level: 1 Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:58:00 -0000 On 22-9-2010 21:35, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 22/09/2010 20:04:25, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: >> You're certainly not the only one liking CUPS. I long hesitated to use >> it, but once I'd decided to do so, I wouldn't go back to lpr. No way. >> It's very easy to set up and does a great job. CUPS is OK but most >> FreeBSD people don't seem to think so. I don't get it. > CUPS is really nice *when it works*. If you're lucky and have managed > to buy the right sort of printer hardware, and the Gods are smiling upon > you, then CUPS will serve you well. The list of supported hardware is very very long, so this part shouldn't be so hard. > On the other hand, when CUPS is bad, it is truly awful. Excessively > hard to debug; impossible to fix without Guru-level powers. One of > those "No user serviceable parts inside" sort of things. This might be true. I guess this is a valid reason not to use it if you want to be able to debug things yourself _AND_ if you are a code guru. > CUPS works brilliantly when I plug my printer's USB cable directly into > my Mac. But I've never yet managed to print to exactly the same printer > via CUPS when it is plugged into my FreeBSD server. Hmm, strange. CUPS works very well when I use a linux server, but it also works very well on my main server, now running OpenSolaris-b134. I would not want to be offensive, but could it be something inside the FreeBSD code that makes it harder to function w/ CUPS? It really is a pity, because it really is very easy to set printers up _AND_ share them over you LAN at the same time.