From nobody Fri Aug 25 13:45:30 2023 X-Original-To: bugs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RXLn71MF6z4rLK9 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:45:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RXLn668D5z4WKC for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1692971130; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=zchMc93RJOkvnPZYwCMcfJO2aMIHJVNT4OWZ89kCbOk=; b=BZ3MyKUI2f2xn07sJWXS0rDtoZ7bQ4iIxSULlPBJ0GbM8ytFc7ZgB1mS3m7qzo3KX9eB5Z AUH83CgGBqxc2JavqSVvpYGeSBlrvL1JL3WRsQPka4vxhiEf9NmM7dSLC0OlYtmp6EfUio +6cLRCeCOaNqFey0o4i/j8UA9H12bSy/txv0bB9xx0qNxgpOAoVnpGac+PcnfPp8WDpiNy VafYzCwChragND+HHwF/R4oCF9Lok1wyBpi6MbSBFxneV0xiLRbt18GOVeHnUVMO/EUCPG 6T+PL4iiBvd2eNX5gH2eOXFb26uuEo53m3TCqLQ1J6YYc5oDoykdbgvrastzrw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1692971130; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=N8JAuP0aq4p6FAJIfkP0ixdeXeL0+aXJiLSM6GnTEPVwCIZnYnAZFpXKvGWN5EtoZiWcOZ XnASxBiuaPrvb8bFVrqK4F8CphlwT73OLNJU+5MzveiatBtt3wPZ8YmsByRxLjh0O8SA91 QX8nTJtGuqV5gmGErqGYgfLXxWXGX2WAC7cRQd+ULuPLM/xZo8vboJB8RFb07OfmCouP8b 1UlLaJnP0uIkFLG7TNiz05DHIdLg+tj+tuGiImNmmdB+cipkHMzhnzmQUlUtecDmqn94xM +HMaLgcA/BKV9cUJtrdO4BByZ80UUVPBT7+rsD15MFcnV0HwMA1lzsXLuXBqmg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RXLn657Slz19Wd for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:45:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 37PDjUAA018849 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:45:30 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 37PDjUIM018848 for bugs@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:45:30 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 261349] Modernise hier(7) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:45:30 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Documentation X-Bugzilla-Component: Manual Pages X-Bugzilla-Version: Latest X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Some People X-Bugzilla-Who: concussious.bugzilla@runbox.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: bugs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: attachments.created Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Bug reports List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-bugs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D261349 --- Comment #45 from Alexander Ziaee --- Created attachment 244338 --> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=3D244338&action= =3Dedit hier.7 rendered I can see that we've diverged slightly in some ways mdoc.7 and style.mdoc.5= are silent about, but hopefully you can overlook (or appreciate!) them and the additional content upstreamed in some form. If nothing else, this is what I= 'm doing, because "This manual page documents the default FreeBSD file system layout". To me that implies no intentional omission in the spirit of this document. There are some things I listed with no description because I didn't have a = good description yet. Since the 14 alpha was released, I feel the need to share = this in it's present state so that as much of it as everyone is willing to use c= an be available for new users in the release. Particularly: zapped synopsis because it isn't a synopsis describing the command line options. /var/log/messages absolutely must be listed guys, even you don't like my description and pick another, people new to unix-style systems do try freeb= sd all the time. If nobody tells you, it can take a very long time to realize there is a syslog everything is writing to. They are told to read man hier immediately upon logging in, so the inclusion of /var/log/messages in this document is quite serious. I used the term "BSD heritage" to describe the ancient artifacts in games a= nd inetd, I think this is sets appropriate expectations for what they are if someone doesn't know. I know it's non-traditional to put the year in front of the release in hist= ory, but I'm 27 and that small addition makes young people realize something profound. Thank you for your time. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=