From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Mar 14 06:07:49 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B2F278695 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 06:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48fXD50cblz4WTc for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 06:07:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=elh4z9aW0rAAOgRD1TSDlSruFPxoSfn0eFegK77hnac=; b=SNilFHj30GjDrSWY8kbYDMgxzY sf5UX90IfHjyH602u3hCYch2nIkUZXnusQJQtR02tcGzneGDPK310Sec1SreSYDPEWnf2nR1vZ0e8 YaexcyRzdMCijqs+fRJXZar3PkkGsoqHxvs6YdJhMfDMfVVJQpmovZ3B0dP5TjyFKW3Q=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jCzxb-0007iL-OD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Mar 2020 13:07:47 +0700 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 13:07:47 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Centralized user/group/whatever management Message-ID: <20200314060747.GH27346@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200313091923.GA98495@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200313143130.GA68871@geeks.org> <96ed1afa-e0e1-51a2-997b-e95097a1d0b4@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6lXr1rPCNTf1w0X8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <96ed1afa-e0e1-51a2-997b-e95097a1d0b4@gmx.net> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48fXD50cblz4WTc X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=SNilFHj3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.45 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.35)[ip: (-9.88), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.87), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 06:07:49 -0000 --6lXr1rPCNTf1w0X8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Osipov wrote: > Am 2020-03-13 um 15:31 schrieb Doug McIntyre: > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 04:19:23PM +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > > > Do you think there exists a modern solution for centralized user/grou= p/... > > > management compatible with FreeBSD and Linux? > >=20 > > I think the best combination is probably a Windows AD setup, with > > FreeBSD/Linux clients attaching to it. (Although I still do external DNS > > importing the AD objects into it, really can't stand windows DNS). > >=20 > > This does work really seamless, the GUI tools are well utilized. > >=20 > > It really gets you the hard part (LDAP, Kerberos) in a pretty easy to > > use package. I don't know how many hours I've spent on OpenLDAP > > getting it to work with things, and management packages for OpenLDAP > > are pretty sucky overall. >=20 > I agree here with Doug, as strange as it sounds, Samba is your best bet. > When you provision your domain you shall enable the POSIX extensions. It > will create all GECOS stuff. pam_winbind is also nice. So pam_winbind it is, if you want to use AD for user/group management? Does winbindd not crash any more under FreeBSD?=20 Do you need to also enable winbind somehow in nsswitch.conf?=20 >=20 > One must simply admit that Active Directory is a wellthought system not > just for Unix. You may join your machines either with Samba, more easily > with msktutil (disclainer, I am a maintainer) with works flawlessly on > FreeBSD. I'll certainly look at it if I have to integrate FreeBSD into Windows AD.= =20 However first I'd like to find a free, open source solution for a Unix-only office. Hope it will not eventually come to buying a Windows server to manage Linux and FreeBSD workstations. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --6lXr1rPCNTf1w0X8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJebHSzAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0hIsH/0JXJq4zBSCCPCf7rkAvbNN6 LAT8bi6Rp4Ot9Sn/HolNwjpng4uWEhULz35fVi4gGhA6d09ANAM1XtifRFa8ctsZ xWjw6XBwyqscqDzm65766lt8HenWeoNCSyCSb24aoNXtHzIf2i4pr6717rVKs3JO g1P6Ol+xSaoV/teGxHCqYB+/vR/+LyeC99EbBLPlqhSZHY0DsDZxpy1gzWo0qIw/ mrB0leFOgKtzYFPY7w1rDB68QcrWpItiQ6Zn5u23w+X780ieJ1HSShqdOpOnjQx/ 96ciDa714QX445SMeiLOvRq9HSH084XUkQyCZ9jW8e2zEtVlLmASdHTWxFbdc7Y= =hAzW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6lXr1rPCNTf1w0X8--