From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 27 22:27:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA03216A4D1 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from cprobd02.vailsys.com (cprobd02.vailsys.com [63.210.102.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A505243D4C for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:27:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwiest@vailsys.com) Received: from dfsfbd06.vail (dfsfbd06.vail [192.168.129.190]) by cprobd02.vailsys.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2A9CE509; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dfwdamian.vail [192.168.129.233]) by dfsfbd06.vail (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B45A323E9C; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfwdamian.vail (dwiest@localhost.vail [127.0.0.1]) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k8RHX8af029276; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:33:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dwiest@localhost) by dfwdamian.vail (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k8RHX8vs007139; Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:33:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dfwdamian.vail: dwiest set sender to dwiest@vailsys.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:33:08 -0500 From: Damian Wiest To: Anton Shterenlikht Message-ID: <20060927173308.GA19066@dfwdamian.vail> References: <45194B55.6050609@verizon.net> <20060927124549.GA568@home> <20060927131403.GA18332@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060927131403.GA18332@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: George Allan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pdf editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:27:52 -0000 On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 02:14:03PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Maybe it's time to reconsider the nature of that itch? PDF was never > > meant to be edited (except peripherally), and most definitely not in the > > sense that you're thinking. Consider it a FINAL "print" format, like an > > image that's long since left the photographer, his studio and his camera > > and now exists only as a JPG on a hard drive. > > > > Agreed. But what if I'm writing a paper for a scientific journal > in latex on my freebsd and my coauthors just can't be persuaded to > use anything that's not already exist on their windows PCs? I find > the results of latex2html or latex2rtf of poor quality (even for > editing purposes), i.e. lots of errors, problems with references, > etc. Maybe I need to learn how to use these tools better. > > Lately I was sending them pdfs and got in reply some pdfs that can > only be viewed properly with the latest acrobat, and their comments > are only visible on the screen anyway and cannot at all be printed. > > So what do I do? More broadly, what is the solution for cross- > platform (*nix - windows - vms) editing of a complex document, with > lots of maths, line plots and raster images? > > anton Agree on a document format? -Damian