From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 2 22:13:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55D5B14EB6 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 27641 invoked by alias); 3 Mar 1999 06:13:18 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 27624 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 1999 06:13:17 -0000 Received: from bdsl224.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (209.180.169.224) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 1999 06:13:17 -0000 Message-ID: <36DCD2FF.5F47940D@uswest.net> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:13:19 -0800 From: Nocturne Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John S. Dyson" Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Active advocacy [Was: Re: Guess we've lost the server market too...?] References: <199903030458.XAA23291@dyson.iquest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "John S. Dyson" wrote: > > You should have recommended FreeBSD, and when his friends start > > asking, try to get them to switch. Your actions follow suit > > with the lack of advocacy you're complaining about. Sheeple > > logic doesn't work. > > > I care more about my Dad not getting frustrated than I do > about FreeBSD. Maybe he doesn't want to be a pioneer (which > he doesn't.) Each problem needs a different solution, and > there are still cases where I would tell a friend to use > WinNT, because I care about them. To me, it is an issue of > honesty, and support. Had you recommended FreeBSD, and he had grown frustrated or shown a lack of interest, you would have been able to say that you had at least tried and offered. Instead you made a judgment based on perception, not real truth. Don't feel bad, it's a common mistake when dealing with those close to you, you wouldn't want to draw lines in the sand. But you could have told your father to give it a shot and, if he didn't like it, you would be happy to help him setup the OS of his choice. > > (I think this should also go to -advocacy, but I'm not going to > > cross post unless people think I should.) > > > I never know the right thing to do in that area... Someone will > likely redirect it. I already got nailed for it once, and it put a knot in my stomach, making me feel like I had really blown it. So from now on I'll let others make the decision to cross. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net ICQ: 29880099 gryph@mindless.com PGP DH/DSS key available If you're gonna build a house of cards, use the plastic coated kind Cuz I'll bet the homeowner's insurance won't cover flood damage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message