From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 22:08:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A40516A41F for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8FD13C468 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so86889anc for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:08:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Su6QElUXz2v6Qsb+tsHnUdGys39tiHGV3waTaa+/UM7UcfkIhJiRj2rcTT8HBumaYNIYP/bID12O3MFoZrEsU99d9NTK2oluCK+e3lakYejq8erL7BKB8umeabct82dwHCigeM81xi4ICdyoqZ0ujDjOiTFGrolsHD9GFeh2vTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FerC2kmDmADTrncX6LX5RQkRW/RIeF7RZjbXdc8hInU+BuNoF8uKOpDNco4xNop5LnBRHYENrhiJdSfRajLK25R84VhTQ8egzisUL4YHbxmBkFzJtqn5YuLoPEtuEEsf1CjxSv0Eej6VdYC7QIDH8sTEQphg3b8z7mok8OiuAk8= Received: by 10.100.31.2 with SMTP id e2mr650105ane.1181772495957; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.111.17 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:08:15 -0700 From: "Maksim Yevmenkin" To: ticso@cicely.de In-Reply-To: <20070613210951.GX42538@cicely12.cicely.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070613150534.D83504@fledge.watson.org> <20070613210951.GX42538@cicely12.cicely.de> Cc: Robert Watson , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: IPX over IP support removed X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:08:17 -0000 On 6/13/07, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 07:39:26AM -0700, Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > > Robert, > > > > [...] > > > > >The following subsystems remain with NET_NEEDS_GIANT dependence: > > > > > >i4b - ISDN framework, for which there is on-going work > > > > > >netatm - One of three ATM frameworks, for which there is on-going work > > > > > >ng_h4 - Bluetooth serial drivers -- I know of no on-going work here > > > > > >IPSEC - KAME IPSEC implementation, which will be removed and replaced with > > > FAST_IPSEC in 7.0, once IPv6 support is committed for it. > > > > > >Of the above, I am concerned about ng_h4 since I've heard nothing about > > >potential work on this. I believe the dependence issue has to do with > > >entering the non-MPSAFE TTY code without Giant, and perhaps this is easily > > >addressed... > > > > yes, ng_h4(4) uses giant to enter tty code. i have some code, i wrote > > long time ago, similar to what ng_tty(4) does, however, i was waiting > > for tty changes. > > > > i will see if i can fix it, or, since almost no one uses serial > > bluetooth dongles anymore, retire it completely > > I hadn't spend much time with bluetooth yet, so this maybe a silly > question. > Is this for using a generic bluetooth device attached to RS232 or > is this to emulate an serial connetion over BT? this is for bluetooth devices that use rs232 as transport. this includes external rs232 dongles and some older pccard device (i.e. i have xircom cbt). > So far the BT devices I've seen with uart interfaces are not gerneric > ones and support only the serial connection over BT in a modemstyle > fashion, which doesn't need special OS support anyway. yes, i think you are talking about serial-port-profile dongles. pair of those would essentially replace null-modem cable. they are different, as they run a simple application on them that implements serial-port-profile. usually, it is not possible to use serial interface to talk to bluetooth device itself (i.e. send hci command etc.). > I've ordered two of those devices yesterday and it would be great > if I can connect them with FreeBSD via an USB-BT adapter. it should be possible. i just tried to see if my xircom pccard would work and it did not :( basically uart(4) did not attached the card :( max