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On 07/19/14 18:32, Stephen Hurd wrote:
> krad wrote:
>> that is true and I have not problem using man pages, however thats not the
>> way most of the world work and search engines arent exactly new either. We
>> should be trying to engage more people not less, and part of that is
>> reaching out.
> One of FreeBSD's historic strengths has been the handbook and generally
> good quality documentation.  There is no way that the FreeBSD project
> can ensure that all Google results for everyone in the world are FreeBSD
> related "good" documentation, but it can ensure that the documentation
> included with FreeBSD is accurate and usable, and it can ensure that the
> FreeBSD documentation is available via the internet.
Jumping in to this little fray... you're exactly right. But the handbook 
for pf says to go to openbsd for "better" info on how to setup pf, which 
then has instructions using a syntax that doesn't exist on FreeBSD. This 
is not just about google searches - although users end up going there 
because of the syntax issues.

Just to clarify based on the OP thread.