Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:24:41 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" <danny@panda.hilink.com.au> To: Michael Dillon <michael@memra.com> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Servers (single IP) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970219151419.8268d-100000@panda.hilink.com.au> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.3.93.970218191656.10859H-100000@sidhe.memra.com>
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On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Michael Dillon wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Michael Slater wrote: > > > then they get one. I dont know how it is in the U.S these days, but in > > Australia as of the end of this month their will not be any more class > > C network addresses available. > > (Thats what i was told when i applied for another class C address) > > It seems Australia has used the _FEW_ I.P addresses > > that were allocated to it. So as a result,we have to make do with what > > we have (at least that's the impression that i get) . > > This doesn't make sense. If you have made use of the IP addresses > that you have been allocated and have documented this fact then your > upstream ISP must give you more address space. If they won't then you can > appeal it to APNIC http://www.apnic.net I replied privately to Michael Slater; I should have replied publicly. Once upon a time APNIC gave AARNet the 203.0.0.0-203.63.255.0 netblock to allocate to Australians. The idea was that AARNet was the monopoly ISP and so could aggregate. They allocated Class Cs to anyone who asked. When I set up as an ISP, I asked for an 8 class C netblock so I could hand out subnets to little customers, and I was told by Geoff Huston, (one time?) secretary of the Internet Society, that it was AARNet's policy not to hand out netblocks for this purpose - each business should have its own Class C network and should not have to renumber if it moved ISPs. Thanks to that strategy, whereby 3 man companies who need 4 hosts have class Cs in Australia, the 203.0.0.0-203.63.255.0 block was exhausted on 12/2/97. Because Geoff Huston now understands CIDR, Telstra Internet (who took over the commercial side of AARNet) will not allocate general purpose *portable* IP addresses. Telstra Internet *will* allocate non-portable IP addresses to its customers. The Telstra Internet announcement about this (see off http://www.aunic.net/) explicitly states that people who need portable address ranges should ask APNIC. In other words, Australians should not complain that Telstra is doing something wrong, rather, they should be happy that it is now doing the right thing, and helping to prevent core-router collapse. cheers, Danny
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