From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 28 18:50:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA12292 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12287 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA09126; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:50:08 -0800 (PST) To: Terry Lambert cc: coredump@nervosa.com (invalid opcode), narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee, jehamby@lightside.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Win32 (was:Re: Go SCSI! Big improvement...) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:52:37 MST." <199602290052.RAA09543@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:50:08 -0800 Message-ID: <9124.825562208@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > The GUI was cool, the "Objective C" was "Objectionable" (we'll just > define this *new* language so we don't have to learn C++ and because You're wrong there, Terry. Objective C was being developed at the same time that Stroustrup was getting evil ideas over at AT&T. I know, I was talking to some people back in 1984 about using Objective C for a project I was doing, and there was a company supporting it commercially (if I'm not mistaken it was ParcPlace, though memory dims after more than a decade). They did it because they knew that C++ was genuinely evil and really just a glorified pre-processor hack, not a truly dynamic, message-passing object system like Objective C. Objective C was by far the better mousetrap of the two, and it lost. Typical. Jordan