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> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 08:07:23AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > ...
> > The last articulated plan in arch@ was that LUA will be default in 12, and
> > we plan to remove FORTH in 13. Last time I said it there in February, there
> > was only email agreeing that I could find. This matches the in-person
> > consensus poll I took at BSDcan as well. I think it would take a very
> > extraordinary set circumstance and severe problems with LUA to change those
> > plans.
> 
> For the idiots among us, what's wrong the with FICL-based loader(8) and why
> is it being replaced with Lua one?

The number of forth programmers on the planet has diminished to the
point trying to maintain and/or enhance the FreeBSD boot loader by
either the project or down stream projects and vendors has sadly
approached the high pain threshold.

Oddly, I now have to learn lua :-)  Which is probably not a bad thing.
Perhaps my limited forth understanding may become useful in 2037 <:-)

-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org