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Date:      Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:12:54 +0100 (BST)
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
Cc:        Karl Pielorz <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, Edwin Culp <eculp@webwizard.org.mx>, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Make elf release 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.01.9810142110510.389-100000@herring.nlsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <199810132359.HAA02821@spinner.netplex.com.au>

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On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Peter Wemm wrote:

> Karl Pielorz wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Edwin Culp wrote:
> > 
> > > > I know that's one of the reasons why I've left my system running a.out ke
>     rnels
> > > > at the moment... (and I at least hope it's a good reason ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Karl
> > > 
> > > The wonderful part of it is that I haven't had anything to debug :-)  What 
>     % of
> > > the folks running current/beta debug their kernels?   The way to find the p
>     roblems
> > > is to have more people using it in its most complete form. IMO.
> > 
> > Hmmm.. Well if I'm right about not being able to debug LDK's with an ELF
> > kernel, I have to keep my kernel a.out... An LKM I'm betaing has a few
> > problems, which means it's gotta be debug(able)...
> 
> Umm, it's the other way around..  DDB can't see a.out LKM's for debugging. 
> DDB *can* see both a.out and elf KLD modules.  KLD modules are the first 
> time that DDB has worked with modular kernels.
> 
> It's GDB that is the problem - it can't see KLD modules.  Mind you, it 
> can't see LKM's either.

It should be possible to debug both with GDB with judicious use of
'add-symbol-file' with the module filename and the load address (I believe
that there is normally a fixed offset from the load address).  I have a
vague memory of writing something about this in the handbook.  Maybe I
was dreaming...

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