From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 8 4:35:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650D437B400 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool0083.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.83] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16uXQm-0004RU-00; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:35:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3CB1805B.D5E56F08@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:34:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use/Utilize References: <3CAEE006.F36598B1@mindspring.com> <200204061202.g36C2aPL036777@grimreaper.grondar.org> <20020408112409.A90467@lpt.ens.fr> <3CB1646C.9DF12B4F@mindspring.com> <20020408114703.C85215@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > As you wish... The definition of "utilize" here is > To make useful; to turn to profitable account or use; to make use of; > as, to utilize the whole power of a machine; to utilize one's > opportunities. > > The relevant definition of "use" is > 1. To make use of; to convert to one's service; to avail one's self > of; to employ; to put a purpose; as, to use a plow; to use a chair; to > use time; to use flour for food; to use water for irrigation. > > So tell us again, why is "using software" different from "utilizing > software"? Why does one imply using the source code and the other > imply using it as an application -- in fact I've forgotten now, which > is supposed to be which? Because: o That dictionary has 4 definitions for the transitive verb "use" and 1 definition for the transitive verb "utilize", so you are ignoring the other 3 definitions o That dictionary also has 2 definitions for the intransitive verb "use" and 9 definitions for the noun "use", which you also ignore. o The word "use" is not employed as an intransitive verb in all cases of which I speak, and therefore you can not replace it with the word "utilize" and have the same meaning. Basically, there is only one of 15 definitions of "use" which match the definition of "utilize". Thus you have a 7% chance of having the one which is "synonymous", for any given random example. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message