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Date:      Mon, 20 Mar 2023 20:47:53 +0000
From:      Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Poudriere friendly armv7 relases
Message-ID:  <20230320204753.GY2347@FreeBSD.org>
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 02:38:34PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 2:28=E2=80=AFPM Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org> wro=
te:
> > That said, I can take a look and see if we can package base.txz for
> > armv7, however I would like to do some archaeology work here to be sure
> > that the resultant output is not going to have unexpected behavior
> > because of the userland not matching 100% the target SoC.
> >
>=20
> These days, everything FreeBSD builds is identical on supported harndware.
> We assume the boards can do UEFI after whatever weird thing they
> need to get that going, and all that crazy has been relegated to the
> uboot ports, and no longer intrudes into how we build stand (though some
> crazy people might build stand for such platforms, it's so niche (eg a
> couple
> of routers that don't run our binaries ever) at this point that we
> shouldn't worry
> about it for releases).
>=20
> We've evolved to a point where the benefit for being able to build poudri=
ere
> jails from release artifacts out-weights the couple of users being slight=
ly
> inconvenienced on their legacy platforms (and it hasn't been clear those
> platforms will ever be updated to 14).
>=20

Ok, let's discuss this further after 13.2 is done.  Note, we're about
a month from the start of the 14.0 cycle, but it sounds to me that once
a solution is in place, things should "just work" from that point.

Glen


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