From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 7 10:11:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8546D1065679; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 10:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7CE8FC1C; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 10:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q67ABsNv070365; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:11:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q67ABrt7070362; Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:11:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:11:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chris Rees In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20120705082857.GB37083@server.rulingia.com> <4FF55864.8040807@FreeBSD.org> <201207051215.44799.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20120706201721.GB1437@garage.freebsd.pl> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2456600518-88613874-1341655914=:70235" X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 07 Jul 2012 12:11:54 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Jonathan McKeown , Pawel Jakub Dawidek Subject: Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:11:57 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --2456600518-88613874-1341655914=:70235 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > > this only generate herds of morons that "know FreeBSD" and dissolve real user base. > > What is the 'real user base?' People who insult newcomers and call them morons?  People who consider it cool to use a OS that is > unnecessarily difficult to learn? > in your way of seeing reality - probably yes. --2456600518-88613874-1341655914=:70235--