Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:49:48 +0200 From: Dan Partelly <dan_partelly@rdsor.ro> To: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> Cc: Hubbard Jordan <jkh@ixsystems.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: relaunchd: a portable clone of launchd Message-ID: <B11FEEF6-DE75-4DAC-A0EE-52B047C3F7B7@rdsor.ro> In-Reply-To: <20160112125948.GH3625@kib.kiev.ua> References: <5687D3A9.5050400@NTLWorld.com> <CAGfo=8kXzNVKy9gx0jkME4iRRyrgrsfpPnW3nYrZC0gysapPcg@mail.gmail.com> <817860B6-5D67-41A3-ADD7-9757C7E67C35@gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1601081020270.34827@nog2.angryox.com> <07D83705-D89F-4125-B57B-920EDEBC8A85@rdsor.ro> <70975696-3E07-48B9-BFD1-3C2F51E715BB@icloud.com> <E85C42D4-963B-4632-9182-E591A80D1306@rdsor.ro> <76E6AF2A-917B-41EB-883A-C27AB2BB9F71@ixsystems.com> <20160112125948.GH3625@kib.kiev.ua>
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Verbose is not bad , Konstantin . I actually prefer verbose source. It = is easy to read and understand. It is preferable all day long to clever hacks and obfuscated ways of = writing code Ill tell you one thing. Years ago, when Ms Leaked on their site = ntoskrnl.exe symbols with private debug=20 information , I dint had too much trouble understanding a lot of the = implementation details from the kernel ,=20 exactly because MS is verbose. And that .. in WinDbg assembly. The = source would have been much much=20 more easier to read.=20 Yeah, MS=E2=80=99s APIs are not the best I give you that. But regarding = *readability* , Windows is leaps and bounds ahead of any Unix I seen. It is extremely easy to figure out what a = certain function does, how they use data=20 structures, and what the members of said data structures represent. I like verbosity. Makes figuring things easier, makes maintenance = easier. I frankly hope to spend as little of possible=20 of my life reading terse source code. This is also why I like Ada = language. Its a joy to read Ada source.=20 > On 12 Jan 2016, at 14:59, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> = wrote: >=20 > nybody who used Win32 and even whispered a word about bloated and = verbose > interfaces that require two screens of boilerplate to do trivial = things, > would be much more amazed by Mach IPC.
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