Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 10:55:13 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc Message-ID: <20171006085513.73ru7knzaxzpfryi@ivaldir.net> In-Reply-To: <c45305d2-c7fa-60cf-09c8-c13d363a1b0e@columbus.rr.com> References: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com> <59D546FD.30906@gmail.com> <c948e207-9976-c229-9970-a4a61ff743b2@columbus.rr.com> <ff47eaac-9766-f6ae-1a1e-ec576b49aa42@gjunka.com> <c45305d2-c7fa-60cf-09c8-c13d363a1b0e@columbus.rr.com>
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--y4kt6u6gycsujlmu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 10:08:54PM +0000, Baho Utot wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 10/05/17 16:27, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > >=20 > > On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Here's my take on that. > > > >=20 > > > > The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD > > > > leaders 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg > > > > system. > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > [putolin] > > >=20 > > > > Don't let the few old school die hearts who are afraid of any > > > > change and make the most noise influence you. There will always > > > > be edge case user who think their needs out weight what is best > > > > for the group. > > >=20 > > > So what you are really saying is Go to hell old farts we don't need > > > you here.=A0 We are not going to listen to you as you are too old to > > > know anything.=A0 You are old and stupid. > > >=20 > > > It is looking like I will need to move away from FreeBSD if that is > > > really what is being accomplished here. > >=20 > > But do those old farts have anything interesting to say or they are just > > making noise? What's the alternative to the proposed direction? > >=20 > > GrzegorzJ >=20 > Everyone should be heard. who knows if the direction would be the same? >=20 > You won't hear from this old fart as every time I have had a question or > input on direction All I got was grief. >=20 > The last time was about pkgng. As someone that moved from LFS/building my > own distribution to FreeBSD, and adding a package manager and tools for L= FS. > I think I may have learned something in that process. SO what did you fo= lks > do, Well I was just bitch slapped down. So much for user input. Hell pk= gng > can not even merge configurations file in /etc when is that going to be > fixed. It can... and for a while, the fact it is not used in packaging base is ano= ther subject, but the tool can definitly do it. [...] >=20 > Anyway it looks like I will be moving to OpenBSD or just go back to rolli= ng > my own as I have more free time to pursue building systems that work for = me. > FreeBSD just doesn't look like it will be a fit for me in the future. Have you figured out that OpenBSD is a step further in the direction you are rejecting: They have FLAVORS for decades and they do strongly recommend use= rs to use binary packages in the first place... Just sating... Bapt --y4kt6u6gycsujlmu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAlnXROwACgkQY4mL3PG3 PlodWQ//U9WMFjuMBXLDvZ6PyqI9IC9dsoFoXa5D1zrK5aFag7/KdSFoAkx+Qyr0 MgCCg5fBLqQyfBFmISfHBP4C1+Nt5ZsvYWbI5R3ay7zC2WAblYKh71tR+l2S6X/D O+zz+3md9IdqwkdW7+GIV5zZvGHObdBDepe80I1xuq8twru61AiidPJbi7uVZc7H tYXHH5caMUtmxmyAi8Enhi+sx3Ykim69IN2LfEHqcFMIJm5LRpZltV/4Wq0/LHWX f4rzMyeghf0luYZJT9pzSHcrnifmQXVzA97HYycErnNuwGfFkWrRn0MoLItcyVAJ E5Zaa6D1PwGANcjK61stSYulGujVPwPi7H5861lgnOkrVQLzJteK7ziBUNbbkKHv imby73Pv3rW/o1A7A14eaLUulZ6faMJPEWMLSBXkfS86Am1hRZBgEfj2a2cNaJd0 7ziw+fvc1PG1yKZjMjrY8QzzUtx0ZE+Bc7mnWuwnXqK0GnOtvbKfOrZGAj/4Vydo FvGcVyvVliDjatQQqZIZ1rvVaVhbcSW+ytecFdM8B7/MwMQcZBOrOPqYPWCdkMLy Edb9Nb9qTbic2ShfJUtbUq3KiCjNUvUlddYBhFJDV8CoxrN8is1Q6hQzD9kQ2bn8 TLh8ppn/USDHD+zU/+rXfoY5H/A7EaTLlfBmU7wC8afhiJKMBOc= =2wzL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y4kt6u6gycsujlmu--
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