From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 1 14:15:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46EE37B401 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F30843E4A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01041; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gA1MF5S27297; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15810.64745.425793.33748@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:05 -0500 (EST) To: Fred Clift Cc: Subject: Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0 In-Reply-To: <20021101150820.X7968-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> References: <20021101211647.GA11031@dragon.nuxi.com> <20021101150820.X7968-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fred Clift writes: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > > It has become very hard to produce boot floppies for 5.0 on the Alpha > > platform. The kernel has just grown too large. The amount of effort > > required to get 'make release' to properly build the floppy images just > > requires too much effort. > > Anyone care to provide more information on what exactly is required on the > floppy that makes it so big? is it the _very_ wide range of > hardware/drivers needed to fit a good cross-section of the target > machines? I'm just curious. One cannot make an alpha kernel fit on a floppy alongside the loader unless one removes nearly all drivers (including disk drivers), NFS, IPV6, etc,etc. > > > We do desire to offer a small boot image (say 8 MB) that one can 'dd' > > onto the beginning of a hard disk and boot from that to do an install. > > So the two options off hand will be boot from CD or boot from temp hard > disk? > > Are there other, (though perhaps painful) options? I'm somewhat concerned > that I'm going to have to open up my box and put a hard disk in it just to > do an install... Netbooting. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message