From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Tue Mar 27 21:38:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85CEF5FA1A for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 21:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@callfortesting.org) Received: from mail-pl0-x22c.google.com (mail-pl0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA74183CC2 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 21:38:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@callfortesting.org) Received: by mail-pl0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id c11-v6so248946plo.0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:38:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=callfortesting-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=N4IftJ6ywXUBwcvjsmghEH3KXhIRuaOcSgBE5/Zai/w=; b=c1M32CCZGujdHKUF2kd5h9wRBG3KdQ8QClVG3ikNHPDj7SASgBbgEYGtaIOXeuPF/J T25k2dUCSwnXbzR64JjE3mTktQdiUZtA7cmRB3+8P1IMi2Jw/CSGK9A1Mi9D+1aDRNkd OqqjC5OlUO1NXvqWJEa+Lvw6TJioeynajrneCRfc7nOjiJ2sIEpxiyF/7zVCHLLpmedD 74hRt5WpdXXqZ6+QJSeqXUKVXrvGb1aBTNGH1OEEZdpgqz0pOI3ox3LvWGoPcETPWvuE 14UBYygRIwuiKDV17U8YNhlgxJ5jlIJFaj9hXqcNPLRVzXgNoLZuIYWqcfHt7V4+1vlw hTYg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=N4IftJ6ywXUBwcvjsmghEH3KXhIRuaOcSgBE5/Zai/w=; b=T577MEHm3Y5u/n67+o/W5ms9CJ4IrKpQOJjRWS03zulQxvqH7RP6/oJLIImOGLnVJ7 KWlgFJ3InXqn6quefxGv9gHRToxwIfnYvoI8Ral8NNq3cRYJRT/m+1fYsjFtpi2VcTeM pi3LPmvBfz3uuHkQ8XodTqG4/jVI8qPArq4vqFrElqt4l380aNDKtPw+6snEAUv0sEVi K45U7DPlieG3cKI7Iq5qVfGlYxe8Ku2N8fnKRHGy94FSApuHWFFtftsyjLKuxVdXef0U YvroUXQqFyDzEI3byj8Xkv8YMZy+wg0aWP2MqqK46oOKqgmkJQlsGkYsdfPylrT9cgi6 yfwA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7Gs7dt08WJni6tZjVgWPuHCVDlNyNorgIo1bNZjhO0e+kRb1PzM FWMXr+kWQ3A5zGve72v5EoE3g7vL X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx48CDsfMLclATNXC1Rn+I4B4PMLH22ROWm6oVb9ggsD31qJg9kcyfEaPfyO5T6eFhAH2KJeKxw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:4481:: with SMTP id l1-v6mr958213pld.43.1522186688652; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbook-2.local (c-67-170-143-17.hsd1.or.comcast.net. [67.170.143.17]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z14sm3648472pgv.26.2018.03.27.14.38.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: smart(8) Call for Testing To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org References: <4754cb2f-76bb-a69b-0cf5-eff4d621eb29@callfortesting.org> <3695e5d7-0e16-20af-0659-5548eb855a6f@freebsd.org> From: Michael Dexter Message-ID: <70259f94-9f26-3539-5086-fe3c7eaa21ee@callfortesting.org> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:38:06 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3695e5d7-0e16-20af-0659-5548eb855a6f@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 21:38:11 -0000 On 3/27/18 12:06 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > so you could say that this is the D.U.M.B  S.M.A.R.T  program? :-) FWIW: I have *never* once found the S.M.A.R.T. pass/fail to be of any use because the drive is usually toast before you see it[1]. Following the individual values is much more useful, especially if you have a stack of same-model drives and know that a few are new and a few old. Michael [1] "You don't need a weatherperson to know which way the wind blows."