From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 21 15:49: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com (12-234-90-219.client.attbi.com [12.234.90.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EEF37B404 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Master.gorean.org (master.gorean.org [10.0.0.2]) by 12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3LMixHt056430; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Received: from Master.gorean.org (zoot [127.0.0.1]) by Master.gorean.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3LMj1Lr017997; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:45:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by Master.gorean.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id g3LMj0Tt017994; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Master.gorean.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 15:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-X-Sender: doug@master.gorean.org To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory In-Reply-To: <20020421.113046.131323596.imp@village.org> Message-ID: <20020421154112.N17880-100000@master.gorean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <200204200256.g3K2uOu10038@sheol.localdomain> > hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) writes: > : IMHO, you muddy, if not nullify, the abstract altogether. You are advocating > : copying this file down to /etc, and editing it. There goes the concept of > : "overriding the values contained in this file". > > Yes. /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf are separated because we > wanted to change the defaults from time to time. Users hate this. > I agree that copying /etc/defaults/rc.conf is a horrible idea. Down > right stupid and should never be advocated. *EVER*. We had that > paradigm in FreeBSD 1.x and 2.x and it *DID*NOT*WORK*. That's the whole > reason that we separated things out into two files. People keep leaving off the rest of the advice I gave, which is to set the variables for the things you care about, and delete the rest. I think this is perfectly reasonable advice. Relying on the defaults not changing for things that are important to your local installation is foolhardy, IMO. -- "We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory." - George W. Bush, President of the United States State of the Union, January 28, 2002 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message