From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Aug 9 11:35:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06816 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iafnl.es.iaf.nl (uucp@iafnl.es.iaf.nl [195.108.17.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06811 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 11:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA13062 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG); Sat, 9 Aug 1997 20:35:21 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA00502; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:02:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199708091702.TAA00502@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: ISDN drivers/cards To: peter@grendel.IAEhv.nl (Peter Korsten) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 19:02:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970809055307.20710@grendel.IAEhv.nl> from "Peter Korsten" at Aug 9, 97 05:53:07 am X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Peter Korsten wrote... > Wolfgang Helbig shared with us: > > > > > > This is really my main point, bisdn works for some folks and not for > > > other, but is no real reliable base for part of FreeBSD. It's a mess and > > > that could explain why some people have so much luck and other don't. > > > Mostly boiling down to "luck" I expect. > > > > The messy part starts when you try to run ppp over isdn. But straight > > bisdn-097 works fine for a lot of people. I installed it nearly a year ago > > successfully. It was one of the first things I did with FreeBSD, so > > it didn't take much expertise to install. > > But as a matter of fact, raw IP over HDLC isn't really used outside > of Germany. At least, it isn't used one country to the west, the > Netherlands. I also notice that people speaking in favour of bisdn > are called 'Wolfgang' and 'Hellmuth', both your average German name. We also had to use PPP/ISDN here. I have yet to find a non-PPP ISDN capable provider here in Holland. > I need PPP to make my ISDN card of use and though the bisdn code > may be okay (I can neither confirm nor deny that), installing it > is a real pain in the you-know-what and the PPP-hack looks really > yuckie to me. But as soon as you get everything together the end result *is* stable, at least in our experiences at TCJA (http://www.tcja.nl) Took some frustrated phonecalls to Peter for help before success came ;-) Wilko _ ____________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl - Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Do, or do not. There is no 'try' - Yoda --------------------------------------------------------------------------