From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Sep 27 04:43:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA19919 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 04:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usr04.primenet.com (tlambert@usr04.primenet.com [206.165.6.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA19899; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 04:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA24360; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 04:42:15 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199709271142.EAA24360@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 'fxp' driver/hardware lossage (was Re: Alexander B. Povol's mail) To: Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com (Don Lewis) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 11:42:14 +0000 (GMT) Cc: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com, dg@root.com, tlambert@primenet.com, tarkhil@mgt.msk.ru, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199709270811.BAA00487@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> from "Don Lewis" at Sep 27, 97 01:11:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > } Only broken NIC chips are simplex, even the 82586 is actually capable > } of hering itself talk on the wire, though most drives do not set > } the chip into this mode. Either way ``ethernet is _not_ a simplex > } device''. > > That's only true of coaxial media. Over twisted pair, if you see > data start arriving on the receive pair while your transmitting then > you have to assume that the data is being sent by another station > and you've got a collision situation. Isn't this the hub's responsibility to distinguish and prevent? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.