From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 28 09:59:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B74A611E; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43507CAA; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1XYBFw-002rWs-B9>; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:59:04 +0200 Received: from g225003129.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.225.3.129] helo=hermann.walstatt.dynvpn.de) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.82) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1XYBFw-002mKD-6s>; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:59:04 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:58:27 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" To: Kevin Oberman Subject: Re: WiFi 802.11/ac PCIe supported adaptor Message-ID: <20140928115827.2c6bafe7.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140927143830.1d25968f.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140927222208.GA20243@e-new.0x20.net> <20140928080643.1b5c991b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <5427A8C5.1010703@freebsd.org> Organization: FU Berlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/TtT_l/FcAXgIDSSxGbUtG2Y"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-IP: 92.225.3.129 X-ZEDAT-Hint: A Cc: FreeBSD Current , Nathan Whitehorn X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:59:06 -0000 --Sig_/TtT_l/FcAXgIDSSxGbUtG2Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:44:19 -0700 Kevin Oberman schrieb: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Nathan Whitehorn > wrote: >=20 > > > > On 09/27/14 23:06, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > >> Am Sun, 28 Sep 2014 00:22:09 +0200 > >> Lars Engels schrieb: > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 02:38:30PM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: > >>> > >>>> I'm looking for a replacemnt for my 802.11g WiFi PCIe adaptor card a= nd > >>>> want to > >>>> replace it with an 802.11ac adaptor. > >>>> > >>>> Since I made very bad experiences with CURRENT and support of modest > >>>> modern hardware > >>>> (Haswell CPU/Intel 7260 DualBand WiFi NIC), I'd like to ask here fi= rst. > >>>> > >>>> I found this PCIe adaptor card attractive: > >>>> > >>>> GigaByte Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I > >>>> > >>>> I can not find ad hoc the WLAN chip used on that specific card, but > >>>> maybe someone has > >>>> experiences with that litte board. > >>>> > >>> FreeBSD doensn't support 802.11ac, yet. > >>> > >> I'm bitter aware of that. This OS doesn't support the chipsets, even if > >> they provide also > >> 11a/g/n. > >> > >> We have at our department now a bunch of Lenovo hardware, with Intels > >> 7260 chipset. The > >> laptops are now runninmg Ubuntu 14.0X something which obviously suppor= ts > >> the WiFi chip. > >> I'm the last man standing with FreeBSD on my private Lenovo :-( > >> > > > > This is a serious problem. I'm about ready to install Linux on my laptop > > as well just to get a usable system. Some kind of funding directed to a > > willing developer would be hugely valuable for the usability of the > > operating system on recent hardware. This is probably more important ev= en > > than Haswell graphics since without a driver, Haswell is merely slow, > > whereas networking is completely broken. > > -Nathan >=20 >=20 > While I don't yet have need of it and probably won't any time soon, > Haswell support is becoming critical. It is getting more and more difficu= lt > to get boards with pre-Haswell processors, especially for laptops. It is > still pretty easy to get supported WiFi cards for both desktops and > laptops. I feel Haswell is getting to be a critical issue. I use the xf86-video-scfb driver, VESA driver doesn' coop with the resoluti= on of my display (called Full HD, 1980x1080 pixel). VESA complains about not know re= solution when starting. The SCFB is unusable. The i5-4200M CPU has enough stamina to do well, but w= hen it comes to video/desktop/graphics under load, the graphics is rendered unusable.=20 The laptop is not productive and an expensive heap of plastic, silica and m= etal with FreeBSD that way. >=20 > VESA is available for Haswell systems, but it is very slow and too often > the BIOS support of VESA is poor. Vendors want text mode for boot and suc= h, > but really have little interest in graphics as Intel has good native > Windows drivers for them.Still waiting for Lenovo to fix VESA for my old > Sandy Bridge laptop. I used VESA, which was badly broken, for almost a ye= ar > waiting for KMS support, though I did get a recent BIOS update and have n= ot > tried VESA on it. > -- > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired > E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --Sig_/TtT_l/FcAXgIDSSxGbUtG2Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUJ9vDAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8WZoH/1xt216QcoJchXED0B48lz+B tcYRLGJoZAefCLDDKN55EGhsDsz4hBKGldxSYknk0WggxvNJd6NTOrPqbw0LmhTk Vvi+FfuWlIVyReKBvGikt0H0sEawh286FBSK6SJNVVmmpdBE1ZPhgZ8mOjI83gTZ PtC2HbJCRlhIBCXVtNmdyhJn2zLEYhueCrMefWuVt+snERIoeqB5lwipoJSwS8Ld xzNGtkvZa2kMvyHBzhWQfUsdhMU7vBrwRFUOt6Boa5w+0NzLCjIecbwgbnhWj7pL q1uNr4IQYSKVFfvFIPJyUsATCfiKIjDVpd6lHE8NSZn/I+MpRCyC7cDIcGLfJBY= =Hrgg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/TtT_l/FcAXgIDSSxGbUtG2Y--