From nobody Sun Aug 29 11:30:23 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-cloud@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C634C17A4916 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 11:30:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raf+NU=eb39f044@rafal.net) Received: from smtp-out-4.mxes.net (smtp-out-4.mxes.net [198.205.123.69]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GyB8T5q2Xz4l50 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 11:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raf+NU=eb39f044@rafal.net) Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4GyB8K4y9Fz3c8d for ; Sun, 29 Aug 2021 07:30:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxes.net; s=mta; t=1630236626; bh=zjAz7mDsHU8x0iFp4wcMa+/+wIoUCA3qE7CUxtDpvto=; h=From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:To: In-Reply-To:Message-Id; b=i/9ANCl/7Sq/qJW7WnqRXNT0+f1jSHYKIgHUBf2yvQRzPVtxiUWsYiaJQ+cjeUZf6 fXMpvqiOOw6VwQksA3CQxVk16lXu1+5ffJO6qmvfJTQqP3cqIzTURyZW/f729auYBo qWLOfA8Ga0taYh5LlUiahckyEZqHJBDXxoH0jOIg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rafal.net; s=tm; t=1630236625; bh=zjAz7mDsHU8x0iFp4wcMa+/+wIoUCA3qE7CUxtDpvto=; l=986; h=From:Subject:Date:References:To:In-Reply-To:From; b=bMORh9SXxm6yzc4bgR1fSV/ph/G4NYPFV53OZqhA490eiTeqnd4cXepGhUJnwrsep /UCzYFj3+8kIVYdCnwoTuKYmmGhR0ijUqBM6AkWkMIrH6HbjSwKCXO2VwoqgKLYeRx 3xhLw9XvNFbEb8hZ2exOmFS1FwvyjQigGq6bVbng= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: FreeBSD on cloud platforms (EC2, GCE, Azure, etc.) List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-cloud List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Subject: Re: RFC: Switching FreeBSD/EC2 images to UEFI boot Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 12:30:23 +0100 References: <79c48cc2-5341-2cea-7d6e-4372f7c93245@freebsd.org> To: "freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <79c48cc2-5341-2cea-7d6e-4372f7c93245@freebsd.org> Message-Id: <7F854796-C481-4BA7-B729-29E84BAF1856@rafal.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Sent-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GyB8T5q2Xz4l50 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=mxes.net header.s=mta header.b="i/9ANCl/"; dkim=pass header.d=rafal.net header.s=tm header.b=bMORh9SX; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=rafal.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of raf@rafal.net designates 198.205.123.69 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=raf@rafal.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[mxes.net:s=mta,rafal.net:s=tm]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[mxes.net:dkim]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-cloud@freebsd.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:198.205.123.0/25]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[mxes.net:+,rafal.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rafal.net,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19844, ipnet:198.205.122.0/23, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[NU=eb39f044]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.205.123.69:from] Reply-To: raf@rafal.net From: Rafal Lukawiecki via freebsd-cloud X-Original-From: Rafal Lukawiecki X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On 29 Aug 2021, at 05:05, Colin Percival wrote: >=20 > We have a decision to make and I'm > looking for input from the community. Faster booting, or support for = older > EC2 instance types in our published AMIs? >=20 > --=20 > Colin Percival Thanks for asking, Colin. =46rom my perspective, any improvement to boot = times is highly welcome. I am not affected by the older/legacy instance = types. I suspect that in the world of fast-changing cloud provisioning, = and very much unlike in the world of real hardware, there would be less = of a need to maintain support for older platforms. While it is important = for FreeBSD to support older physical hardware, laptops, cards etc, I do = not think that is as important for cloud platforms at all. However, I = fully respect that others may have different perspectives, so please do = not base your decision merely on mine. -- Rafal Lukawiecki Data Scientist=20 Project Botticelli Ltd=