From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 7 16:05:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE869106568A; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from alto.onthenet.com.au (alto.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.68.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFE48FC16; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grehan@freebsd.org) Received: from dommail.onthenet.com.au (dommail.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.57]) by alto.onthenet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5E8118AB; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 02:05:04 +1000 (EST) Received: (from dommail.onthenet.com.au [192.100.104.17]) by dommail.onthenet.com.au (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id EJX00000 (AUTH peterg@ptree32.com.au); Wed, 8 Oct 2008 02:00:39 +1000 (EST) From: Peter Grehan To: Nathan Whitehorn , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=20Horst=20G=FCnther=20Burkhardt=20III?= X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.8.6-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20081008020039.EJX00000@dommail.onthenet.com.au> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 02:00:39 +1000 (EST) Cc: FreeBSD PowerPC ML Subject: Re: bootloader installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:05:06 -0000 Hi Nathan, >We really need to make installation work better. Yep. >Can we include a port of Apple's HFS implementation >in base? I know APSL1 was impossible, but are there any >thoughts on APSL2 now? Having HFS support should also be >valuable on x86 with more people dual-booting >FreeBSD/OS X now. ZFS shows how to incorporate a piece of s/w that may even have an unfriendly license. The ppc loader can do a boot-time module load so the same trick can be applied. I would imagine a port of Apple HFS code to be a "big job" with differences in the o/s maybe harder to mask out than with ZFS/Solaris since the OSX and FreeBSD have significant incompatible overlap. >I suppose that writing a simple write-only HFS >implementation should not be too hard, either. >Maybe this could be hooked into gpart bootcode? As Marco mentioned, there is hfsutils. Also, NetBSD had a Google SoC project to implement HFS, that at least produced some usable code: http://netbsd-soc.sourceforge.net/projects/hfs/ I don't know that the status is in NetBSD proper. later, Peter.