From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 13 16:48:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4B037B401 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.knology.net (smtp2.knology.net [24.214.63.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A37943F75 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:48:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 7711 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2003 23:48:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO user-24-214-34-52.knology.net) (24.214.34.52) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 2003 23:48:05 -0000 From: David Kelly To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:48:04 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 References: <200308121910.59445.dkelly@HiWAAY.net> <44wudhbeya.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> In-Reply-To: <44wudhbeya.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200308131848.04819.dkelly@HiWAAY.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-03:09.signal X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:48:07 -0000 On Wednesday 13 August 2003 01:16 pm, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > However, WEP and IPSec are not quite as interchangeable as David > Kelly makes them sound. Even without access to the outside world, > intruders could make themselves a nuisance. A DOS nuisance, yes. Without IPSec they can occupy the same frequency but they will not talk to any hosts or over any wires I have control over. IPSec should be built into wireless access points if the manufacturers of wireless equipment actually cared about security. Lacking that, I'll have to make my own access points out of FreeBSD systems. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.