From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Oct 23 16:14:11 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC0EC1E2CD for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from smtp1.irishbroadband.ie (smtp1.irishbroadband.ie [62.231.32.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4342EF90 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:14:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@sohara.org) Received: from [89.127.62.20] (helo=smtp.lan.sohara.org) by smtp1.irishbroadband.ie with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1byL9l-0000To-L4; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:57:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.87 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1byLAD-000IDJ-4m; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 15:58:21 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:57:49 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Is it time to retire the scanner ? Message-Id: <20161023165749.bf7c84829910e947a7572260@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20161023172801.4f143b32.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20161022224754.162d0870.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161023004100.33fc999a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161023135334.d11fd376.freebsd@edvax.de> <20161023145846.5381df860d1410643eb845a0@sohara.org> <51209.69.209.224.207.1477234260.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20161023172801.4f143b32.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.5.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:14:11 -0000 On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 17:28:01 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 09:51:00 -0500 (CDT), Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On Sun, October 23, 2016 8:58 am, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 13:53:34 +0200 > > > Polytropon wrote: > > > > > >> On FreeBSD, getting that printer to work in CUPS requires no big > > >> efforts, you don't even need the PPD file. You even don't _need_ > > >> to use CUPS as you can print PS directly to the printer - no > > >> driver needed, only a printer spooler. And this hasn't changed > > >> in 10 years... > > > ` > > > Probably not in the previous 10 years too (well it's almost > > > 2017 and the LJ4000 came out in 1997), I know for sure that you could > > > spool PS to a Laserjet 4 with lpr/lpd under FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 because I > > > did just that. > > > > And to add to that, HP keeps making supplies for their this old > > printers. We do have HP LaserJet 4050 in our Department which was > > purchased around 2001 or 2002. Still works, HP still makes toners. > > Kudos HP! > > Even "worse": The toner cartridges are quite cheap. People usually > think I'm lying when I tell them my home printing costs are 30 Euro > every 3 years (this is 10 Euro per year, less than 1 Euro per month). > Try to beat _that_ with typical consumer ink cartridge costs... ;-) About the same as mine using oversized 'CIS' cartridges and bulk ink in my Brother inkjet (cheap A3 - hard to resist), but then we don't print much perhaps a ream or so per year. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith