From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 1 23:49:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F007716A400; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from postal4.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB4343D46; Mon, 1 May 2006 23:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Mon, 01 May 2006 16:49:47 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 8C4AF45042; Mon, 1 May 2006 16:49:46 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 2006 11:50:09 PDT." <20060501185009.2A94E45042@ptavv.es.net> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 16:49:46 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20060501234946.8C4AF45042@ptavv.es.net> Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.org, Joe Marcus Clarke Subject: Re: Observations on Gnome-2.14 X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 23:49:49 -0000 > Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 11:50:09 -0700 > From: "Kevin Oberman" > Sender: owner-freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org > > > Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:53:24 -0400 > > From: Joe Marcus Clarke > > > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > I have one system running V6-stable that is now running Gnome-2.14. Some > > > things are really nice about it, but there are some oddities and some > > > things that need touching. > > > > > > When I first started 2.14, I got messages that several icons > > > (gnome-calculator, logout, screen-lock) could not be found and were > > > displayed as white icons with a red 'X'. But after acknowledging the > > > message, all of the icons appeared and work fine. > > > > I have not seen this on any of my machines. > > > > > > > > This might be a race as I am running i386 on an AMD dual-core 4400+ > > > Athlon-64 processor and it may be getting something done before things > > > are ready. This is also intermittent. It happens about half the time > > > when I start Gnome. (I use startx, not gdm.) > > > > Maybe, but that seems fishy. I guess gnome-settings-daemon could be > > taking a long time to startup. > > I suspect you are right. On my 2GHz Pentium-M system I see the > gnome-settings-daemon come up fairly late. My terminal windows are up > and looking ugly and then the daemon starts and they all snap to the > correct fonts and set-ups. > > Also, on two of my starts I also got the window stating that > gnome-settings-daemon did not start. These also had the missing > icons. But gnome-settings-daemon IS started. So this would appear to be > the problem. > > > > gnome-terminal has sometimes crashed on logout from Gnome. I have not > > > tried to debug this at all. I do see that the contents of > > > .gnome2/session no longer have information on all of the gnome-terminal > > > windows. Just a simple command, so I guess gnome-terminal is storing > > > this somewhere else. (I need to find out where to debug why at least one > > > window never restarts.) > > > > For GDM sessions, it's ~/.xsession-errors. I thought startx would > > output to the calling VTY. > > You misunderstood the issue. I am not looking for errors (they are on > the VTY) but the configuration information that tells gnome-terminal how > to open windows. Things like the geometry, profile, and application, if > any. That all used to be saved in the .gnome2/session file but now > appears to be someplace else. There are references in .gnome2/session to > /gnome-terminal-ev6bR2/ and I assume that this is a gconf db key or > reference to a file. I just have not found it. > > > > Sessions are a bit messed up. As already reported, all manually > > > startup-sessions are gone after the upgrade and must be re-entered. No > > > longer is there an ordering option, but this might be settable via the > > > "Current Session" tab. I'll paly around with it if I get a little time. > > > > > > The logout tool no longer has a check-box to save the session. I THINK I > > > saved it by going into the "Sessions" prefs and selecting to > > > automatically save the session on logout and logging out. I then logged > > > back in and de-selected that option. There is still an option (which is > > > selected) to "Ask on logout". It appears to be a no-op in 2.14, though. > > > > Correct. It looks like they axed this for 2.14. As a workaround, > > gnome-session-save --gui will save your current session. It works fine! I had a totally different problem that was causing it to hang up. It saved the session...eventually. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634