From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 16 21:26:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0A616A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:26:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F9343D49 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:26:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch01.acuson.com ([157.226.230.208]:2705) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1D1Wgt-0003Qu-3j for freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:26:35 -0800 Received: by mvaexch01.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:26:39 -0800 Message-ID: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641B13@mvaexch01.acuson.com> From: Johnson David To: "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:26:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: RE: SPAM: Score 3.7: Re: Instead of freebsd. com, why not... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:26:36 -0000 From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr] > >> Improving workflow isn't about making stuff simple, it's about making stuff >> more efficient. > > What needs to be made more efficient with FreeBSD? The installation > process seemed pretty user-friendly to me. This is about efficiency, not user friendliness. The Windows installer is pretty damned friendly, but it's still one of the most inefficient installers I've ever run across. There's a whole bunch of little stuff to fix in sysinstall. The navigation between sysinstall pages is not optimal. Aborting an install usually means a reboot, even if you haven't reached the "commit" stage. Many necessary tasks (network interface, root password) are stuck in the optional post-install stage. There are various inconsistancies here and there. There's also the whole issue of managing installs on multiple machines. FreeBSD does not do this well. Remote, scripted, and unattended installs would be awesome. Something on the order of Solaris' JumpStart would be wonderful. David