From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 21:22:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CF91065675; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B027B8FC23; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2DLKHMu078404; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:20:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:21:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20080313.152100.1530737473.imp@bsdimp.com> To: kip.macy@gmail.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <200803121012.m2CAC24p033661@repoman.freebsd.org> <200803121123.12620.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, jeff@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/amd64/amd64 machdep.c trap.c vm_machdep.c src/sys/amd64/conf DEFAULTS src/sys/amd64/linux32 linux32_sysvec.c src/sys/arm/arm trap.c src/sys/arm/conf AVILA src/sys/arm/xscale/i8134x crb_machdep.c src/sys/compat/freebsd32 ... X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:22:36 -0000 In message: "Kip Macy" writes: : It has in fact been discussed at great length. The only question was : the timing. : : Most of us would agree that JeffR's time would be much better spent on : lock pushdown than arguing about the specifics of KSE removal. However, he should have sent out a heads up that this was going to happen to make sure there were no lingering issues or objections. In a large project like FreeBSD, you can't go "cowboy" on the tree like Jeff did. Warner : On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:23 AM, John Baldwin wrote: : > On Wednesday 12 March 2008 06:12:02 am Jeff Roberson wrote: : > > jeff 2008-03-12 10:12:02 UTC : > > : > > FreeBSD src repository : > > : > > Modified files: : > > ... : > : > > Log: : > > Remove kernel support for M:N threading. : > > : > > While the KSE project was quite successful in bringing threading to : > > FreeBSD, the M:N approach taken by the kse library was never developed : > > to its full potential. Backwards compatibility will be provided via : > > libmap.conf for dynamically linked binaries and static binaries will : > > be broken. : > : > While I don't disagree with the change, it might have been nice to have : > pre-announced the axeing first. Even with Alpha (which probably had more : > support and which was discussed in person at BSDCan with a lot of developers) : > having the removal not actually discussed on the lists at all resulted in : > some bumps that could have been easily avoided with a bit more patience on my : > part. : > : > -- : > John Baldwin : > :