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Dean" Message-ID: <7d26cf5d-cfeb-c66a-39b2-3e2a53ed06be@wavecable.com> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 18:40:12 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <76573660-4ee9-a25b-d3fa-58b0b4f6cd60@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46MCSt2w95z45vK X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomdean@wavecable.com designates 208.47.184.7 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomdean@wavecable.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:208.47.184.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.56)[-0.561,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[192.143.113.24.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.25)[0.250,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[7.184.47.208.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.896,0]; IP_SCORE(0.12)[ipnet: 208.47.184.0/23(0.17), asn: 36271(0.48), country: US(-0.05)]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[smtp02.emerald.cmh.synacor.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36271, ipnet:208.47.184.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[wavecable.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 01:40:15 -0000 On 9/1/19 5:54 PM, MJ wrote: > Hi Tom, > > [I cropped a lot of this message - it's needless detail] > >> I killed all the bsdinstall stuff before I answered any of the >> questions.  As soon as the first install box appeared, I switched to >> ttyv3(?) where root was logged in.  Before selecting keyboard model. >> > > It's still risky. Who knows what it has started writing out. If you have > to do this, I suggest just rebooting and restarting the installation > rather than re-starting via the console. Does bsdinstall start writing BEFORE the keyboard model is selected? Before the device is selected? Is this documented in the handbook? I did not see it. > > >> I use grub at the console to choose the system to boot and I login at >> a console prompt.  In my .bash_profile, I startx.  I use TWM because >> it is least intrusive.  I use emacs in an xterm for development. >> > > Not an unremarkable situation, I would think. > >> I have a multi-os system. >> sata6g_1  HD0 SSD    ubuntu 18.04 >> sata6g_2  HD1 WD5000 Ubuntu 18.04 >> sata3g_3  HD2 WD5000 windows 7 - not used > > (the last best windows IMHO) There was no last best windows. I replaced the windoze before WNT (== ++VMS) with BSD386 0.1. > >> sata3g_4  HD3 WD5000 empty - this is where I tried to install FreeBSD >> sata3g_5  HD4 WD5000 windows 7 secondary plex- not used >> sata3g_6  DVD DRW-24B3LT >> sata6g_E1 (empty) >> sata6g_E2 (empty) >> >> After starting bsdinstall on ttyv3(?), I chose the automatic layout. > > That should work. I dare say many others use that format. I would > encourage you to use manual layout and so expand your knowledge of why > different partitions should be made (like /var and /usr) as separate > partitions. It really doesn't take all that long, considering you were > attempting to install using the ftp option. (I remember having to map > cylinders/heads/sectors to boundaries back in ye olde days of FreeBSD, > so it's got easier.. somewhat.) > >> >> OK, that does not seem to be a reasonable way to go. >> >> I will download the DVD set.  Is it possible that I get reasonable USB >> 3.0 support from the full DVD rather than the net install? > > If you haven't used BSD for a while it seems the prudent thing to do. > >> What do I need to do to avoid scribbling on sata6g_1  HD0?  That >> contains grub. > > Don't install a boot manager when it asks. Leave it to Grub. (Not having > used Grub for a long time, I expect you need to edit Grub to find the > new disk with FreeBSD on it?) update-grub > > Regards, > Mark