From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Jan 4 22:02:53 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE34143B687 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32E8868C4 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15141484F; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x04M2mhl079363 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:02:48 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x04M2lLe079362; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:02:47 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Cy Schubert cc: Wojciech Puchar , Enji Cooper , Igor Mozolevsky , Hackers freeBSD Subject: Re: Strategic Thinking (was: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components) In-reply-to: <201901042142.x04LgKkQ045885@slippy.cwsent.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <201901042142.x04LgKkQ045885@slippy.cwsent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <79360.1546639367.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:02:47 +0000 Message-ID: <79361.1546639367@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E32E8868C4 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.95 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.75)[0.755,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.04)[0.041,0]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: phk.freebsd.dk]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.76)[0.765,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; IP_SCORE(0.10)[asn: 1835(0.52), country: EU(-0.00)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 22:02:53 -0000 -------- In message <201901042142.x04LgKkQ045885@slippy.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert wr= ites: >> FreeBSD should aim for that room, rather than become "Linux-sans-GPL" > >We should try to fit into the datacentre. ... and RPi's, access-points, NAS devices, routers, televisions, photocopi= ers, sewage-treatment-plant-monitoring, high-voltage-switching, stock-trading, air-traffic-control, scientific super-computing, antiproliferation-monitoring, laptops, desktops and ... I hope you get the point ? -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .