From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 21 06:44:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D5516A4CE; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:44:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pfepa.post.tele.dk (pfepa.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEC343D5C; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:44:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (0x50a07c53.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.160.124.83]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4296A47FE09; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:44:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6L6iXTd077807; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:44:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: David Schultz From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jul 2004 13:37:39 PDT." <20040720203739.GA72252@VARK.homeunix.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:44:33 +0200 Message-ID: <77806.1090392273@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: Brian Fundakowski Feldman cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kldunload DIAGNOSTIC idea... X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 06:44:37 -0000 In message <20040720203739.GA72252@VARK.homeunix.com>, David Schultz writes: >> Looking for sleep addresses inside the module might make sense too. > >But this is just a heuristic that may sometimes fail. The module >might be holding resources or locks, it could have callbacks, etc. >If we're going to offer a forcible unload option, [...] This has _nothing_ to do with forcible unload. Please read the subject, again if necessary. This is an idea for a debug tool which may help people properly debug and implement unload *in general*. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.