From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 16 18:46:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAEF16A41F for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7B743D48 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from infofarmer@gmail.com) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l1so1041346nzf for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GNL/c/IlJKgZk30wGPPcQzc+xka/eC+sitjurKqMQtcx8UbRZpw1lGf0Mcb1IEnLUZ+ytfLjYTXxYockVONz2p0LPv0dsrkJWF8SPCCOY0jE4xpLirs3TkoMwtiZ3GYqlzUDqaHBjucABZc4Hg8ynrgeAGgtnziaYeeT8Fc61qU= Received: by 10.36.67.12 with SMTP id p12mr5236994nza; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.20.67 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 21:46:24 +0300 From: "Andrew P." To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060115230234.GX73071@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200601160121.k0G1LZNI005167@clunix.cl.msu.edu> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:32:54 +0000 Cc: Karol Kwiatkowski , vocativus , Don Hinton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: English only, please (was: Pooomooocyyyy ;() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:46:30 -0000 On 1/16/06, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > > On Sunday, 15 January 2006 at 16:49:27 -0600, Don Hinton wrote: > > > Hi Greg: > > > > > > On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:28, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > >> On Saturday, 14 January 2006 at 20:02:02 +0100, Karol Kwiatkowski wr= ote: > > >>> vocativus wrote: > > >>>> Witam! > > >>> > > >>> [...] > > >>> http://www.bsdguru.org/dyskusja/ > > >> > > >> As I said a couple of days ago, this is an English language list. I= n > > >> a case like this, it would be appropriate to *not* copy the list on > > >> the reply, despite the policy to the contrary. > > > > > > Where exactly does it say that this is an "english only" list? > > > > I suppose you have a point. It's implicit; it should be spelt out. > > At http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html you have a > > choice of "Mailing Lists" or "Non-English Mailing Lists". -questions > > is under the former link; the Polish mailing lists are under the > > latter. At > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ > > there's a reference to an inability to speak English. But we should > > really do something about writing a charter that makes it clear. > > Anybody feel like having a go? > > I don't really mind someone posting a question in another language as > long as they realize that most of us will not be able to respond to it. > Often enough, I think, there are others out there who can handle that > language and they can respond. Hopefully they will not turn it is to > a long running exchange on list in some other language. > > Now, if someone posts a question in something besides English and then > begins to rant and flame people for not responding, then it is not > acceptable. But, just starting a question here in another language > is not so onerous. > > ////jerry Agreed. It's not that I don't see Greg's point, I just don't feel that a small percentage of foreign-language messages bring any harm to anyone. I think we'd be much better off if the proponents of such linguistical segregation devoted their time to eradicating real spam.