From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 4 00:18:11 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AAD16A4CE for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:18:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from snark.piermont.com (snark.piermont.com [166.84.151.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E4743D4C for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 00:18:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from perry@piermont.com) Received: by snark.piermont.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD6C2D988C; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 19:18:10 -0500 (EST) To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <9418.1109872131@critter.freebsd.dk> From: "Perry E. Metzger" Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:18:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9418.1109872131@critter.freebsd.dk> (Poul-Henning Kamp's message of "Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:48:51 +0100") Message-ID: <87ll94gt6l.fsf@snark.piermont.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 16:36:07 +0000 cc: tech-security@NetBSD.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FUD about CGD and GBDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 00:18:12 -0000 "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: > If the component (well respected etc etc) algorithms I have used > in GBDE contains flaws so that they become individually less > intrinsicly safe because their input is the output of another such > algorithm, then the crypto-world has problems they need to work on. The crypto world is a world of very brittle materials developed by humans with finite capacities. We do our best, but we make mistakes. Combining algorithms in such a way that the result is unexpectedly weak has been seen on several occasions. The reason cryptographers are very cautious is because they have been burned repeatedly. > Despite my best efforts to get people interested in reviewing GBDE, > it doesn't seem to have succeeded in getting any attention until > now, and I am very much looking forward to the competent review > and input this will generate. If you wish to hear my suggestions on how to get review, feel free to contact me offline. Perry