From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 20 15:53:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CF423D815 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic308-9.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic308-9.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.187.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48NfJz4MkFz46Vq for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: a2V.u78VM1nhxUWjjjOGqyY2Y_o.35z2p6a12_u7Y2Z8L7USREJ0QWCjV7p7Epc X8Q0lrGb5QHw22z7Jd.6aWDWv.z_MuiqCuqUd_CEGvOWx6sKxr3BSl0ArP7yLfBcOoKkULfxXmNk MEdOx89IZPG39y.qUj4zzfLucZKANUWx4sxdPwKD_ei7kw1jB8yrOZy8.vxFOWj6iqgHcGnhuCH2 FU7FNHrHsj50hpWxgvvlKnISg7dACzolLZ13f9rJE3Dwx1ptGF57ICTUVy.6GM8dBm1yrv._o30m CWK_Cu9tjkjLcE9aION6k0k.btHtVluBG_xvHCHc08QyImCBBTWsH6yQE0KuKCZxNvC2BcN3nGbv KfI4X4KH6lj.DpVZwJ9I5ypXKDWauqo4HZSPi.iUcU5_lgU8c2ZBfas0P5X2cBnIw9ALmBF2sA_l efQq.Lr208TPdxCwach7vXERQTLsgDpk3hevBLDR43In.xNr0W8ezYOICKdQyTed.UTy4yvbmoZM QuoNybJnj3GRl6rw8Lc9IFdNhuY7KjH5xpTO4RRDVLjtWebbqGMZDAYWWsiv0fGw5F5mA4xdg9rG T1wM39X5LeFFBiRxtxcVzMpK6yaObOjRyZOWR39QZq3qsrfifG6k6IawyxT6_9cPihqtpMnIISGA pQBSpLzCddlRQ4imsP3NELFmaIsRUNM44T9GYUfuH52ql4rxF2L9Ca9vXwQCWpaKGR2svYYJdfuh 3Zsz1LVCjSv5h4xQrO7FobH19NFViwG.9HbX6kB2htCZcMemQytYM8RF37ZKRG2lDVro.tO3eFKt Uf8u0YPglvo.F7i84hMG2lKBeB0rFdC3x5Vw1ny569BCjMzLFPPv44KJ99.YFUtVdK0PBoRFwkE_ U5Uot66T3zgirkm63icFw5wJX1hENUfbXG6scwWHE7cuOsr5O2YK1if3rFRyo4J_mMiAAEopRIYm yXu.2nfkGktv7mc4Yi.h2UeoFFFtwxx6Qn0HI2XP7ZHaOsJUgaGRWrWBN6mLnK1kiYYIU_5uZUYo DfN2QAynX7rMLvsR_yMtTxM.EgtusUnkilt0.XShQMY3TdwONC8.vVg1qZQOqsgySB_zQVzzuVFx URTWEG65mthCl2VGFihXBtAN1vzUkWsUx01NvN2OTUelLG_RrX2y7SfcLOvXFBsvjZxTf4OHrset YqpakH1HGPhIC4JCanQlDEXBhfaXclR846squY4D2etLmRkl_wNFbXvBZkXxNI6UIFf3U9d16jUT qD9MW7dAnGvnu40AZen1nQp.o4yuuwjoddY6r.WcKKIBaoTn_LtFEthOe.7WhYbPyqJLu2ZyJj_R roN5gj51W29trjUK6nOg6VmNa.1wQCjL_kQYlmW6IZKlch7f3HTKBDP_8Ych8TU1bgE5tFswjMBz 1lDBPUs19DwbI29daiFTumi5tzg-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic308.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:53:54 +0000 Received: by smtp404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3fc4717e0e1708c9d9d8946c4e49ef7a; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg1-f169.google.com with SMTP id j15so2136374pgm.6 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:53:52 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVXNHjw+cXg7sHd8u4TQOKen8qFLdtjvArk7xauawDw0q8JTHe0 Ya4SK4BGJeRJJfUF6YRVrwuBwt5nDZUsy8vL+Vk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyAhwCSEo4jdaPeSNCSs7fkTQaUGm/Kj14zLuNgsQRgQMCSKfDRw9J3WmaavxvXE2jw0DsV/lrrDSNiFMfFuyw= X-Received: by 2002:a63:8743:: with SMTP id i64mr32764579pge.243.1582214032326; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 07:53:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: From: Ottavio Caruso Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:53:35 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD for the desktop/laptop, was: FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.15199 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/1.8.0_181) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48NfJz4MkFz46Vq X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.49 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com,pr0f3ss0r1492@yahoo.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.87)[-0.869,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.917,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (4.32), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.17), asn: 36646(0.94), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[32.187.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[32.187.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:53:56 -0000 On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 12:17, David Demelier wrote: > > FreeBSD for desktop is still not a thing. It won't change anytime soon > because lacks of manpower and less interest into porting things to > FreeBSD. That's why DRM, bluetooth, wireless, ACPI and wayland terribly > lag behind Linux. > My day-to-day system is Linux Mint Debian Edition 3 on a Thinkpad. I'd gladly ditch Linux for good on my laptop for FreeBSD or indeed any *BSD if battery charge thresholds and re-calibration for the Thinkpad were available [1]. I know that FreeBSD has something similar but I wouldn't know how to make it work and there are no official docs. [1] https://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html -- Ottavio Caruso