From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 16 19:42:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B0E16A41F for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:42:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4EC43D62 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:42:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 4D4FC3EB8; Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:42:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:42:55 -0600 To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20051216194255.GB31497@soaustin.net> References: <20051216105005.68898.qmail@web36212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20051216113117.GA52639@mail.scottro.net> <20051216184149.GC58262@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051216184149.GC58262@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Release schedule for 2006 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:42:57 -0000 On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 10:41:49AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > I didn't move until 5 until 5.2+; it was a major move. > There were lots of things to get-right. So maybe by > 6.5, 6 will be granite stable. (Disclaimer: I am not on re@ but I do watch the bugs come in as one of the bugmasters). We completely redid the way we did release engineering between the 5.X series and 6.X series to avoid ever inflicting that much pain again. The jump from 5.2 to 5.3 was huge and we learned many things not to do. The jump from 5.3 to 5.4 was pretty minor -- but so is the jump from 5.4 to 6.0. The emphasis was on a smaller feature set and a much longer (painfully long :-) ) period of QA. The result in the PR database is that for 6.0 vs 5.4, although there are a number of regressions (in particular, certain i386 hardware), the number of entries is far, far, less than for the 5.2.1 to 5.3 transition. So I would urge people to change their view of 6.0. From what I can tell it's one of our strongest releases. It certainly must be the strongest .0 release. In any case, I don't believe there are going to be .5 and .6 releases going forwards. This will keep us, in the future, from spending so much time on MFCs. Some of this background is further detailed in an article I wrote: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/past-schedules.html I hope that people will find the information there useful. And, if someone ever wants to write that 5.X vs 6.X vs 7.X feature list comparison, now would be a good time :-) mcl