From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 3 20:43:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C4116A40F for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7265313C455 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 20:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o2so4675207uge for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:43:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DPV6GeR4tG2W/mGi0ZugiCobbH8k5zG3tdOFLTU0en6uvgengfRxK8/pymxkzqTjohlD8spci9JvD+7K5EpY7C+XmluTf/l6EqfdAHITRnqkI7kjyIahjsLxfr8Dv9vlyIL5SgCmEHj5c6bneFYArqs4WCvTGapWR0o7Krg3LVk= Received: by 10.82.184.2 with SMTP id h2mr1810421buf.1167857029060; Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:43:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90701031243p329db19atd3f0e6683b62aee7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:43:48 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Users Questions" In-Reply-To: <20070103151318.92e9b0c2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070103151318.92e9b0c2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a88c2524b0a290f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installer vs RedHat Linux Fedora Core Installer? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:43:51 -0000 As a recent BSD initiate, I can say, if you read all the details, and use the defaults for everything (especially 'A' for label) (except most people want X-user for the distribution), then everything works great. Have you looked at PC-BSD? They seem to want to be more MS-like, but I found they have next to no documentation, and they break things that are perfectly doable in regular free-bsd by reading the handbook. Also pc-bsd is KDE-centric, and I'm more of a XFCE & Gnome lover. My overall reaction: What the installer lacks in "goodness/utility/pick-an-adjective", the handbook more than makes up for, if you don't mind reading it. It has answered pretty much all of my questions. It's a hell of a resource, and I wish the same existed for MS (although with Vista, I'm really not planning on using MS anymore anyway). Steve On 1/3/07, Bill Moran wrote: > > In response to "Peter aka SweetPete" : > > > Hello, I used to be on this mailing list several years ago, and have > > recently rejoined. > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/main1.png > > > > vs. > > > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/ch-beginninginstallation.html#sn-booting-from-disc > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/figs/bootprompt.png > > > > Could I begin a thread (now) about a comparison (and relatively > > inferiorness) of the following two installers please?? I WOULD run > > FreeBSD at home instead of Fedora if the installer were more .....erm, > > """Microsoftly.""" > > > > Do you among the developer circle hear this kind of thing from time to > time? > > This seems to come up over and over again. About every other month. > > The developers are aware of it. The general consensus is that "yes, our > installer could be nicer/prettier/easier/etc" > > However, until someone either takes the time to write a better one, or > foots some cash to get a better one written, or blackmails a developer > in to doing it or something else, we still have what we have. > > I think the biggest problem is that the installer is "good enough" -- so > nobody is particularly interested in rewriting it until it's not good > enough any more -- even though it could be better. > > -- > Bill Moran > Collaborative Fusion Inc. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089