From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 5 11:56:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF3837B401 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2E743E4A for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA5JuNpk092847 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:56:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 12:55:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20021105.125533.69352434.imp@bsdimp.com> To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP, floppy installs desupported for 5.0 (fwd) From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: References: <108E7D907871D6118B5000306E0189F85759A2@ednex504.dsto.defence.gov.au> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [[cc trimmed]] In message: John Baldwin : This is what we do already. Even i386 now uses 3 floppies to : install. The problem is that a really, really stripped down 5.0 : kernel still doesn't fit onto kern.flp with the loader. Didn't ru just make that possible? Since we can load all the disk drivers now from a second/third disk, I think this is a reasonable compromise for the moment. In the future, even this might not be possible, but for now it is. Assuming that ru, or someone else, follows through we can continue to support it. If not, then we can kill it. To a certain extent it is incumbent on those that want the feature to keep it working. If no one is willing, then we can kill it. If someone is willing, and actually spends the time to fix breakages in a timely fashion, then more power to them. pc98 and i386 will need a mechanism for booting the installation goo off floppies, maybe mulitple ones, for some time to come, so if we can do this in a MI way then we can extend the length of time that we offer Alpha boot floppies. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message