From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 4 10:34:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from egsner.cirr.com (egsner.cirr.com [192.67.63.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC1C156F8 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eric@cirr.com) Received: from cirr.com (IDENT:eric@egsner.cirr.com [192.67.63.1]) by egsner.cirr.com (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24337; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:34:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199911041834.MAA24337@egsner.cirr.com> From: eric@cirr.com (Eric Schnoebelen) To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tru64 Unix for $99 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:44:08 PST." <19991104094407.E29186@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 12:34:09 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "David O'Brien" writes: - On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 10:11:53AM -0500, nm wrote: - > Compaq cannot give Tru64 away because Compaq is required to pay - > royalties to companies such as AT&T for legacy code. - - Tru64 was known as Digital Unix. Digital Unix was known as OSF/1. OSF/1 - was developed by the Open Software Foundation, starting from code from - IBM's AIX and HP's HP-UX. OSF/1 was developed in response to Sun and - AT&T getting into bed DEC, IBM, and HP were afraid that Sun would end up - controlling Unix and dictate terms to them. I would tend to doubt there - is any AT&T code in Tru64 due to this. However, I would not be surprised - if DEC was still paying royalties to the Open Software Foundation. As one of the survivors of the UNIX wars (I was at CONVEX Computer at the time) I can say the truth looks something like the above. However, the IBM and HP code that went into OSF/1 was based upon System V, release 2 (from AIX predominately). As far as I know, neither AIX or OSF/1 ever had _all_ of the AT&T/USL/S5r2 code expunged from their respective kernels. So, DEC/Compaq would be paying licensing fees to both TOG (The Open Group, successor to the Open Software Foundation), and to SCO (successor to AT&T/USL/Novell) for Tru64. The only commercial UNIX vendor not currently playing royalties is SUN, who bought out the royalties on Solaris a number of years ago. -- Eric Schnoebelen eric@cirr.com http://www.cirr.com "Microsoft asks you where you want to go. UNIX gets you there." -- david@mono.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message